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  • #16
    Originally posted by jdgregory84 View Post
    I do kinda think it's funny though that this same debate with a lot of the same question/answers have occured on this forum and back in Canada years before. Which leads me to believe that this whole thing is pointless. Believe what you want to believe but don't get in the way of others for doing so. Unless they're Muslim Extremists. Fuck them with a couple of bullets to the chest.
    Freedom of religions for everyone, well, except them.

    Now you're sounding like Chris Krok.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Chas_svo View Post
      Neither were good at debate or putting their somewhat complex thoughts into a coherent argument.

      Ken Hamm actually had the best slam. Bill Nye was explaining that he would love to find out what happened before the Big Bang and other things that science can't explain, and said it would be great to find a book that explained this. Ken Hamm's response was to hold up the Bible and say it was "right here".

      <--- does not agree with Ken on the age of the earth.
      Both times he said that were funny, but hardly slams. They were summary points of Ham's meritless rhetoric.
      Men have become the tools of their tools.
      -Henry David Thoreau

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Chas_svo View Post
        Neither were good at debate or putting their somewhat complex thoughts into a coherent argument.

        Ken Hamm actually had the best slam. Bill Nye was explaining that he would love to find out what happened before the Big Bang and other things that science can't explain, and said it would be great to find a book that explained this. Ken Hamm's response was to hold up the Bible and say it was "right here".

        <--- does not agree with Ken on the age of the earth.
        Debates are not arguments and aren't about "slams."
        "Any dog under 50lbs is a cat and cats are pointless." - Ron Swanson

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          • #20
            Originally posted by talisman View Post
            Cliffnotes since I haven't seen you post in awhile and you might have missed a couple of things: BrianC apologized for being crazy, and Wild Bill was convicted of possession of child pornography. Not joking about either. lol
            Yeah, life kind of took over.

            But holy shit about Bill! He did have that creepy vibe.

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            • #21
              I would do question #7

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              • #22
                Originally posted by inline 6 View Post
                I would do question #7
                They've all got the crazy eyes, like #5 and #3. I don't know if a lot of people can spot that look, but I can see it from a mile away.

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                • #23
                  If you want to see good debates between Christians and atheists. Pick your favorite or most disliked atheist vs William Lane Craig. He has debated most of the top atheists.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by StangTamer View Post
                    If you want to see good debates between Christians and atheists. Pick your favorite or most disliked atheist vs William Lane Craig. He has debated most of the top atheists.
                    Are you claiming he(William Lane Craig) has done a good job against any of them?

                    If so, which ones?
                    Scientists do not coddle ideas. They crash test them. They run them into a brick wall at 60 miles per hour and then examine the pieces.

                    If the idea is sound, the pieces will be that of the wall.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Maddhattter View Post
                      Are you claiming he(William Lane Craig) has done a good job against any of them?

                      If so, which ones?
                      I think he means good as in "lolzy." At least, I hope so.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by racrguy View Post
                        I think he means good as in "lolzy." At least, I hope so.
                        I'm just trying to be fair.

                        I've not seen all of Craig's debates. So, if there were any that he felt that Craig did a particularly good job on, I'd be willing to watch it.
                        Scientists do not coddle ideas. They crash test them. They run them into a brick wall at 60 miles per hour and then examine the pieces.

                        If the idea is sound, the pieces will be that of the wall.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by StangTamer View Post
                          If you want to see good debates between Christians and atheists. Pick your favorite or most disliked atheist vs William Lane Craig. He has debated most of the top atheists.
                          What are the qualifications to be considered a "top atheist"?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Maddhattter View Post
                            I'm just trying to be fair.

                            I've not seen all of Craig's debates. So, if there were any that he felt that Craig did a particularly good job on, I'd be willing to watch it.
                            It's possible that there's one out there. Given his track record do you think there really is one? People perform inside their statistics.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Maddhattter View Post
                              Are you claiming he(William Lane Craig) has done a good job against any of them?

                              If so, which ones?
                              Yes. Against everyone I have seen. Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, Alex Rosenberg, etc.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by The King View Post
                                What are the qualifications to be considered a "top atheist"?

                                "Popular" would be a better word for it.

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