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"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler
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Originally posted by CJ View PostValid point, but I think we can all agree it's unpopular enough for there to be a very good chance it's completely repealed with the proper motivation in our upcoming elections.
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Originally posted by lo3oz View Post" come on guys, its FOOLPROOF!"
This will work for some, no big difference for most, be an failure for a few, and Fox Bots will scream the loudest about how "we cant afford it" as they quietly go to the ER and hand over their Obamacare cards. Dont worry though, the next stop down the tracks on this Healthcare Express is Universal Healthcare.
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Originally posted by lo3oz View PostYou again? Dont get enough attention at your prison I take it.Originally posted by Theodore RooseveltIt is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming...
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Originally posted by Lajntx View PostNope, just designed by the Republicans & the Heritage Foundation to never really work and be a good talking point in the argument against " Hillary Care". It really sucks though for your side that Romney chose to use it for "Romneycare" and make it a viable option for nationwide implementation.
This will work for some, no big difference for most, be an failure for a few, and Fox Bots will scream the loudest about how "we cant afford it" as they quietly go to the ER and hand over their Obamacare cards. Dont worry though, the next stop down the tracks on this Healthcare Express is Universal Healthcare.
Originally posted by BuzzoSome dudes jump out of airplanes, I fuck hookers without condoms.
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Originally posted by Lajntx View PostNope, just designed by the Republicans & the Heritage Foundation to never really work and be a good talking point in the argument against " Hillary Care". It really sucks though for your side that Romney chose to use it for "Romneycare" and make it a viable option for nationwide implementation.
This will work for some, no big difference for most, be an failure for a few, and Fox Bots will scream the loudest about how "we cant afford it" as they quietly go to the ER and hand over their Obamacare cards. Dont worry though, the next stop down the tracks on this Healthcare Express is Universal Healthcare.
Heritage Foundation?
There was a paper by Stuart M. Butler in 89.
The 'mandates' laid out by the Heritage Foundation were of an entirely different nature, as they focused on two areas:
1) Employer Mandate, requiring all large companies to provide healthcare coverage and 2) A Catastrophic Insurance Mandate, intended to protect the public from absorbing the costs for uncovered emergency care.
Routine health care was always regarded as an individual obligation.
Dr. Butler in a USA Today article in February of 2012, summed up the position of the Heritage Foundation:
"Is the individual mandate at the heart of "ObamaCare" a conservative idea? Is it Constitutional? And was it invented at The Heritage Foundation?
In a word, no.
The U.S. Supreme Court will put the middle issue to rest.
The answers to the first and last can come from me.
After all, I headed Heritage's health work for 30 years.
And make no mistake: Heritage and I actively oppose the individual mandate, including in an amicus brief filed in the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals to the Supreme Court."
In its amicus brief to the Court, the Foundation stated:
"the Heritage position quoted by the Department of Justice (should) have a red flag indicating it had been reversed. . . . Heritage has stopped supporting any insurance mandate."
Heritage policy experts never supported an unqualified mandate like that in the PPACA [ObamaCare]. Their prior support for a qualified mandate was limited to catastrophic coverage(true insurance that is precisely what the PPACA forbids), coupled with tax relief for all families and other reforms that are conspicuously absent from the PPACA.
Moreover, Heritage's legal scholars have been consistent in explaining that the type of mandate in the PPACA is unconstitutional.
The Heritage Foundation:
1) Did not propose a mandate for routine health care.
2) Later withdrew all support of any type of a mandate.
3) Recognized that any such mandate is unconstitutional.
4) Argued to the Supreme Court (via briefs) that any such mandate was at odds with individual liberty.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/...obamacare.html
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In other words, don't let facts confuse your leftist agenda...Last edited by Gargamel; 01-16-2014, 01:55 PM.
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Originally posted by Lajntx View PostNope, just designed by the Republicans & the Heritage Foundation to never really work and be a good talking point in the argument against " Hillary Care". It really sucks though for your side that Romney chose to use it for "Romneycare" and make it a viable option for nationwide implementation.
This will work for some, no big difference for most, be an failure for a few, and Fox Bots will scream the loudest about how "we cant afford it" as they quietly go to the ER and hand over their Obamacare cards. Dont worry though, the next stop down the tracks on this Healthcare Express is Universal Healthcare.
"Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey
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Originally posted by Trip McNeely View PostWe had our chance, but unfortunately politicians, who are exempt I might point out, fucked us for their own special interest and we're stuck. EXCEPT FOR TED CRUZ, RAND PAUL, ETC, they were the ONLY ones to fight for us."When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler
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Originally posted by Lajntx View PostNope, just designed by the Republicans & the Heritage Foundation to never really work and be a good talking point in the argument against " Hillary Care". It really sucks though for your side that Romney chose to use it for "Romneycare" and make it a viable option for nationwide implementation.
This will work for some, no big difference for most, be an failure for a few, and Fox Bots will scream the loudest about how "we cant afford it" as they quietly go to the ER and hand over their Obamacare cards. Dont worry though, the next stop down the tracks on this Healthcare Express is Universal Healthcare.
“It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.” - Ronald Reagan
I'm sure this will follow up with some attack on Reagan."When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler
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