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  • #16
    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
    When was the last time a government program ended due to cost overruns and failure?
    Valid point, but I think we can all agree it's unpopular enough for there to be a very good chance it's completely repealed with the proper motivation in our upcoming elections.
    "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
    "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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    • #17
      Originally posted by lo3oz View Post
      Hurtle?
      Lol dang old spellcheck
      WH

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      • #18
        Originally posted by CJ View Post
        Valid point, but I think we can all agree it's unpopular enough for there to be a very good chance it's completely repealed with the proper motivation in our upcoming elections.
        We had our chance, but unfortunately politicians, who are exempt I might point out, fucked us for their own special interest and we're stuck. EXCEPT FOR TED CRUZ, RAND PAUL, ETC, they were the ONLY ones to fight for us.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by lo3oz View Post
          " come on guys, its FOOLPROOF!"
          Nope, just designed by the Republicans & the Heritage Foundation to never really work and be a good talking point in the argument against " Hillary Care". It really sucks though for your side that Romney chose to use it for "Romneycare" and make it a viable option for nationwide implementation.

          This will work for some, no big difference for most, be an failure for a few, and Fox Bots will scream the loudest about how "we cant afford it" as they quietly go to the ER and hand over their Obamacare cards. Dont worry though, the next stop down the tracks on this Healthcare Express is Universal Healthcare.

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          • #20
            You again? Dont get enough attention at your prison I take it.

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            • #21
              ACA will cause the insurance industry to go out of business and then we will truly have a single payer 100% government run healthcare. That is the design.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by lo3oz View Post
                You again? Dont get enough attention at your prison I take it.
                What?
                Originally posted by Theodore Roosevelt
                It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming...

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                • #23
                  The troll, Ben! Try and keep up.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Lajntx View Post
                    Nope, just designed by the Republicans & the Heritage Foundation to never really work and be a good talking point in the argument against " Hillary Care". It really sucks though for your side that Romney chose to use it for "Romneycare" and make it a viable option for nationwide implementation.

                    This will work for some, no big difference for most, be an failure for a few, and Fox Bots will scream the loudest about how "we cant afford it" as they quietly go to the ER and hand over their Obamacare cards. Dont worry though, the next stop down the tracks on this Healthcare Express is Universal Healthcare.

                    What the fuck is up with you? You just love to see a country burn to the ground due to idiots like you, or that is what it appears to be.
                    Originally posted by Buzzo
                    Some dudes jump out of airplanes, I fuck hookers without condoms.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Lajntx View Post
                      Nope, just designed by the Republicans & the Heritage Foundation to never really work and be a good talking point in the argument against " Hillary Care". It really sucks though for your side that Romney chose to use it for "Romneycare" and make it a viable option for nationwide implementation.

                      This will work for some, no big difference for most, be an failure for a few, and Fox Bots will scream the loudest about how "we cant afford it" as they quietly go to the ER and hand over their Obamacare cards. Dont worry though, the next stop down the tracks on this Healthcare Express is Universal Healthcare.

                      First, not all Republicans are "conservative"

                      Heritage Foundation?
                      There was a paper by Stuart M. Butler in 89.

                      The 'mandates' laid out by the Heritage Foundation were of an entirely different nature, as they focused on two areas:
                      1) Employer Mandate, requiring all large companies to provide healthcare coverage and 2) A Catastrophic Insurance Mandate, intended to protect the public from absorbing the costs for uncovered emergency care.

                      Routine health care was always regarded as an individual obligation.

                      Dr. Butler in a USA Today article in February of 2012, summed up the position of the Heritage Foundation:

                      "Is the individual mandate at the heart of "ObamaCare" a conservative idea? Is it Constitutional? And was it invented at The Heritage Foundation?

                      In a word, no.

                      The U.S. Supreme Court will put the middle issue to rest.
                      The answers to the first and last can come from me.
                      After all, I headed Heritage's health work for 30 years.
                      And make no mistake: Heritage and I actively oppose the individual mandate, including in an amicus brief filed in the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals to the Supreme Court."

                      In its amicus brief to the Court, the Foundation stated:

                      "the Heritage position quoted by the Department of Justice (should) have a red flag indicating it had been reversed. . . . Heritage has stopped supporting any insurance mandate."

                      Heritage policy experts never supported an unqualified mandate like that in the PPACA [ObamaCare]. Their prior support for a qualified mandate was limited to catastrophic coverage(true insurance that is precisely what the PPACA forbids), coupled with tax relief for all families and other reforms that are conspicuously absent from the PPACA.

                      Moreover, Heritage's legal scholars have been consistent in explaining that the type of mandate in the PPACA is unconstitutional.

                      The Heritage Foundation:

                      1) Did not propose a mandate for routine health care.
                      2) Later withdrew all support of any type of a mandate.
                      3) Recognized that any such mandate is unconstitutional.
                      4) Argued to the Supreme Court (via briefs) that any such mandate was at odds with individual liberty.

                      http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/...obamacare.html
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                      In other words, don't let facts confuse your leftist agenda...
                      Last edited by Gargamel; 01-16-2014, 01:55 PM.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Lajntx View Post
                        Dont worry though, the next stop down the tracks on this Healthcare Express is Universal Healthcare.
                        Or backfire and abolishment which this has a possiblity to do. Then youd never see your beloved nannycare
                        WH

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Lajntx View Post
                          Nope, just designed by the Republicans & the Heritage Foundation to never really work and be a good talking point in the argument against " Hillary Care". It really sucks though for your side that Romney chose to use it for "Romneycare" and make it a viable option for nationwide implementation.

                          This will work for some, no big difference for most, be an failure for a few, and Fox Bots will scream the loudest about how "we cant afford it" as they quietly go to the ER and hand over their Obamacare cards. Dont worry though, the next stop down the tracks on this Healthcare Express is Universal Healthcare.

                          LOL? Designed by the Republicans? Oh please, please tell me which Republican voted FOR the ACA?
                          "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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                          • #28
                            I was behind a Lexus today, their bumper sticker read "I heart Obamacare".

                            Fucking morons...
                            '93 Cobra-Coyote Powered
                            '13 Dodge Cummins
                            '14 Rubicon X

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Trip McNeely View Post
                              We had our chance, but unfortunately politicians, who are exempt I might point out, fucked us for their own special interest and we're stuck. EXCEPT FOR TED CRUZ, RAND PAUL, ETC, they were the ONLY ones to fight for us.
                              If the conservatives retake the senate this bill will be an easy kill. If you keep thinking like that inaction will solidify this law.
                              "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
                              "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Lajntx View Post
                                Nope, just designed by the Republicans & the Heritage Foundation to never really work and be a good talking point in the argument against " Hillary Care". It really sucks though for your side that Romney chose to use it for "Romneycare" and make it a viable option for nationwide implementation.

                                This will work for some, no big difference for most, be an failure for a few, and Fox Bots will scream the loudest about how "we cant afford it" as they quietly go to the ER and hand over their Obamacare cards. Dont worry though, the next stop down the tracks on this Healthcare Express is Universal Healthcare.

                                lol you have no idea what you're talking about.

                                “It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.” - Ronald Reagan

                                I'm sure this will follow up with some attack on Reagan.
                                "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
                                "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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