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    An 88-year-old World War II veteran cited for a code violation for the condition of his Kansas office building recently found himself in jail after being charged with contempt of court.

    Kenneth Knudson, owner of Knudson Jewelry in Horton, was ordered to spend one night in jail after failing to come up with a plan to fix a portion of his downtown building, which has a cracked exterior wall and missing bricks, Fox4KC.com reported.

    Knudson, whose story went viral on social media after it was published Monday, said he appeared in court on Dec. 23 and told a municipal judge that he did not have the money to fix the building. He told the station he was fined $100 and put in jail.

    “I was on the planning commission for Horton, I’ve been the president of the chamber, I’ve been on the appeals board,” said Knudson, who describes himself as a "salt of the earth kind of guy."

    The city offered to perform the repairs for $10,000 and apply the cost to Knudson's tax bill, but he said he could not afford the city's estimate. City officials say the building poses a potential hazard to the public and needs to be fixed.

    "There are crumbling bricks and a large crack, that could pose a hazard," Horton Police Chief John Calhoon told Hiawatha World. "People complain of eyesores and dilapidated buildings, which can be hazards or bring down the value of property. But if we ignore the laws, then that creates a liability."

    Since word of Knudson's plight spread throughout the community, some contractors have offered to repair the building at little or no charge, Calhoon said. Knudson reportedly faces a $500 fine if he fails to have the work done before he returns to court later this month.

    Knudson told Hiawatha World he is grateful that people have stepped up to offer help but is still upset at his punishment, stating the city's building codes weren't designed to "put people in jail."

    "I don’t feel like I committed a crime," he said. "I can understand the city being concerned about vacant houses and other places in need of repair. But the crime didn’t fit the punishment in this case."
    An 88-year-old World War II veteran cited for a code violation for the condition of his Kansas office building recently found himself in jail after being charged with contempt of court.?
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    I find it hard to trust somebody who seems themself something like "salt of the earth"
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Cooter View Post
      I find it hard to trust somebody who seems themself something like "salt of the earth"
      I really don't care about his veteran status, merely irked that he was thrown in jail for not being able to afford to repair a building.
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      • #4
        I also fail to see how him being a WW2 vet is relevant. You don't get a free pass on most things solely because you're a vet.

        Edit: I didn't see your post, Jim.

        Also: he wasn't thrown in jail for not fixing the building, the article says, he was thrown in jail because he didn't come up with a plan to fix it, and you don't have to break a law to be found in contempt.

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        • #5
          True, but what did it serve the community to put him behind bars for a day at his age? If he'd have had a stroke, the community would be on the hook for the hospital bills because he was in police custody. If he pays taxes, if his property isn't falling down, leave the man alone.
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          • #6
            Except that his property was falling down. Brick was crumbling which could potentially cause an injury to a passerby. If the city did nothing you'd be screaming about them taking no action. It's lose-lose with you guys sometimes.

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            • #7
              Ultimately, they tried to work with the guy but he apparently ignored them

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              • #8
                Originally posted by racrguy View Post
                Except that his property was falling down. Brick was crumbling which could potentially cause an injury to a passerby. If the city did nothing you'd be screaming about them taking no action. It's lose-lose with you guys sometimes.
                I saw brick crumbling and a crack in the story. I didn't read anything about anything structurally at issue. From what I was reading, it was more of an eyesore than hazard.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                  I saw brick crumbling and a crack in the story. I didn't read anything about anything structurally at issue. From what I was reading, it was more of an eyesore than hazard.
                  Depending on the height, small pieces of brick can fuck you up pretty bad.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by racrguy View Post
                    Depending on the height, small pieces of brick can fuck you up pretty bad.
                    Also true.
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                    • #11
                      So is it really so bad that they jailed him for contempt when he didn't even bother to draw up a plan for getting it done? They weren't even making him fix it, just to come up with a game plan. Now that he's dicked around they're making him fix it on their timetable, not his.

                      I don't really have a problem with this guy spending an overnighter.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by racrguy View Post
                        So is it really so bad that they jailed him for contempt when he didn't even bother to draw up a plan for getting it done? They weren't even making him fix it, just to come up with a game plan. Now that he's dicked around they're making him fix it on their timetable, not his.

                        I don't really have a problem with this guy spending an overnighter.
                        Yes, it really is. If it's his property they can screw off. Cite him if they like for it but you don't arrest a man for what amounts to "I don't think his building looks safe." What happens when he doesn't get it fixed on their time table? A fine. If they'd have stuck with a fine then this wouldn't be an issue but locking someone up for doing something that caused no harm?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                          Yes, it really is. If it's his property they can screw off. Cite him if they like for it but you don't arrest a man for what amounts to "I don't think his building looks safe." What happens when he doesn't get it fixed on their time table? A fine. If they'd have stuck with a fine then this wouldn't be an issue but locking someone up for doing something that caused no harm?
                          So a piece of a building falling off and hurting someone is cool, and the city should have no ability to levy punishment against a person. You can fine him all day, but what if he doesn't pay the fine? According to you they should have no way to take the property from him, and they shouldn't be able to jail him. What is the method in which you would handle it?

                          The property owner has an obligation to the public at large that his property will not injure them, that is what building codes are for. If he was out in BFE where his dilapidated building could affect no one else, that's one thing, but this particular building was in the middle of town occupied by a number of people that ARENT the property owner. Does he not have an obligation to his tenants to ensure that his building is sound?

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                          • #14
                            I'm actually good with this as well. It sounds like he was given ample opportunity.

                            Wait, did you say 88 year old WWI Vet? THOSE BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by racrguy View Post
                              So a piece of a building falling off and hurting someone is cool, and the city should have no ability to levy punishment against a person. You can fine him all day, but what if he doesn't pay the fine? According to you they should have no way to take the property from him, and they shouldn't be able to jail him. What is the method in which you would handle it?

                              The property owner has an obligation to the public at large that his property will not injure them, that is what building codes are for. If he was out in BFE where his dilapidated building could affect no one else, that's one thing, but this particular building was in the middle of town occupied by a number of people that ARENT the property owner. Does he not have an obligation to his tenants to ensure that his building is sound?
                              You can't arrest someone for what MAY happen. Did a piece of his property fall off and injure someone? If it did, by all means hold him accountable and arrest him.
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