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    A bill set for fast-track passage in the South Carolina Senate in January aims to eliminate Obamacare in the state. The law could become a model for other states fed up with the federal health-care law.

    House Bill 3101, titled the “South Carolina Freedom of Health Care Protection Act,” passed the state House of Representatives last April by a 65-34 vote. The bill now heads to the GOP-controlled Senate with special-order priority, setting up the likelihood that South Carolina will become the first state to exempt citizens and businesses from all participation in the Affordable Care Act.

    State Sen. Tom Davis, the bill’s sponsor who recently wrapped up study committee hearings for H3101 in Columbia, Charleston and other cities, says that the proposed legislation renders the Affordable Care Act void or inoperable through a handful of provisions.

    “It will essentially have five components to it, all of which in my judgment are legal, effective, and within the state’s power to do,” Davis, a Republican from Beaufort, said in an interview.

    The bill’s main component prohibits agencies, officers and employees of the state of South Carolina from implementing any provisions of the Affordable Care Act, leaving implementation of the national health-care law entirely in the hands of a federal government that lacks the resources or personnel to carry out the programs it mandates.

    This provision, according to Davis, comes from the anti-commandeering doctrine established in case law that says feds can’t compel states to enforce federal laws.

    “What the Supreme Court said in Printz v. United States is that states are not merely political subdivisions of the federal government to carry out what the federal government does; they are sovereign entities,” Davis said. “Congress can pass laws, but it cannot compel the states to utilize either their treasury or personnel to implement those federal laws.”

    Additional provisions of H3101 further neuter the Affordable Care Act by outlawing state exchanges, issuing tax deductions to individuals equal to the tax penalties levied by the federal government, and directing the state attorney general to sue over whimsical enforcement of the law. Taken together, the provisions effectively repeal the federal law for the people of South Carolina.

    Davis adds that lawmakers in Columbia are considering two additional provisions: one that outlaws Medicaid expansion, and another that suspends the licenses of insurers who receive federal subsidies under the Affordable Care Act.

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  • #2
    Good for them.
    I don't like Republicans, but I really FUCKING hate Democrats.


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    • #3
      Fuck yea!

      Hope we see several other states take this path after the initial shit storm blows over.

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      • #4
        Damn, South Carolina is pulling the stops out, trying to get businesses to relocate there!
        ZOMBIE REAGAN FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!! heh

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        • #5
          If a few states pull this off, it will lead Barry-Care to an early demise. Holder and his gestapo will fight this tooth-and-nail, because if it passes it will set a legal precedence (and blueprint) for other states.

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          • #6
            So when is Texas going to do the same thing? Greg Abbot likes to thump his chest about opposing the Feds but deep down I have always believed it was a bluff.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by svo855 View Post
              So when is Texas going to do the same thing? Greg Abbot likes to thump his chest about opposing the Feds but deep down I have always believed it was a bluff.
              I don't think passing a law here in Texas will do anything for us.

              S.C. has a state income tax, so when HB3101 states :

              Additional provisions of H3101 further neuter the Affordable Care Act by outlawing state exchanges, issuing tax deductions to individuals equal to the tax penalties levied by the federal government
              That means the citizens get a tax break based on what the IRS will nail them with every year. We don't have a state income tax, so we can't be credited the amount we are fined. Secondly, this is a good way to bankrupt the state treasury if the states fight this battle long enough, the tax breaks will essentially funding the feds until hey can't anymore.

              Good on them for doing this, but unless this whole thing collapses, I don't see it affecting them much.

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              • #8
                "History doesn't repeat itself but it does rhyme."





                This is scary similar to the Nullification Crisis. Same damn state too, lol.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DOHCTR View Post
                  "History doesn't repeat itself but it does rhyme."





                  This is scary similar to the Nullification Crisis. Same damn state too, lol.

                  Interesting. The last 5 years it seems like the states are trying harder to exert individual power. Look at what is going on with pot. I've said it several times, but I've never seen this country so divided and polarized in my life, and I've been at least somewhat following politics since I was in the second grade when Reagan was up for reelection.

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                  • #10
                    Hopefully others Will stand with them.
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                    • #11
                      In my opinion, this is a major fork in the road for our nation.

                      Either the states are going to stand up for a limited federal government outlined in the constitution or they are going to just slip under the foot of an ever expanding one.

                      Whether it be bills such as this one all the way to a state convention, the time is now to put up or shut up.

                      Unfortunately, I think South Carolina will be a rarity.

                      Too many of the voting public either want a large intrusive federal government or just don't give a fuck as long as the "free crap" train keeps rolling. (that is of course until it stops at the end of the line...)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Gargamel View Post
                        In my opinion, this is a major fork in the road for our nation.

                        Either the states are going to stand up for a limited federal government outlined in the constitution or they are going to just slip under the foot of an ever expanding one.

                        Whether it be bills such as this one all the way to a state convention, the time is now to put up or shut up.

                        Unfortunately, I think South Carolina will be a rarity.

                        Too many of the voting public either want a large intrusive federal government or just don't give a fuck as long as the "free crap" train keeps rolling. (that is of course until it stops at the end of the line...)
                        Nothing will happen or change because conservatives refuse to change with modern society, and their power shrinks everyday as yet another senior citizen in a southern state passes on to the next life. The GOP will find a way to blow winning the Senate ( again ) with a sling of unlectable fringe candidates in 2014. Mitch McConnell narrowly wins his primary over a tea party candidate, but loses in the General election due to his ongoing fued with KY`s Governor and the near flawless "role model " roll out of the ACA in KY. The Dems will recapture the Governors Mansions in: Michigan, Florida, Wisconsin and Ohio due largely to the dismal job creation performances because the Republicans there were more interested in fighting a losing war on Obamacare . Most states that refused to expand Medicaid will begin to implement it in 2015. The Vast majority of the Tea Party Senators elected from blue state in 2010 will be voted out in 2016 in dramatic fashion on the coat tails of a landslide Hillary win over whichever Tea Party candidate survives the comical GOP primary. The house will flip back to the Dems in either 2016 or 2018. After the 2020 Census the Gerrymandering that favors Republicans will be done away with... and left alone in states where it favors the Dems. Hillary will easily win re-election in 2020 due mainly because the GOP voting base either disengages from elections or has died off. Soon thereafter Obamacare is abolished along with Medicare & Medicaid and replaced with universal healthcare. In 2024, the GOP has to bus in "paid" audience members to their convention to fill in the empty seats so it doesnt look bad on television.

                        Enjoy the next 10 years!

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                        • #13
                          Seems like you really care about the future of this country.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Lajntx View Post
                            Nothing will happen or change because conservatives refuse to change with modern society, and their power shrinks everyday as yet another senior citizen in a southern state passes on to the next life. The GOP will find a way to blow winning the Senate ( again ) with a sling of unlectable fringe candidates in 2014. Mitch McConnell narrowly wins his primary over a tea party candidate, but loses in the General election due to his ongoing fued with KY`s Governor and the near flawless "role model " roll out of the ACA in KY. The Dems will recapture the Governors Mansions in: Michigan, Florida, Wisconsin and Ohio due largely to the dismal job creation performances because the Republicans there were more interested in fighting a losing war on Obamacare . Most states that refused to expand Medicaid will begin to implement it in 2015. The Vast majority of the Tea Party Senators elected from blue state in 2010 will be voted out in 2016 in dramatic fashion on the coat tails of a landslide Hillary win over whichever Tea Party candidate survives the comical GOP primary. The house will flip back to the Dems in either 2016 or 2018. After the 2020 Census the Gerrymandering that favors Republicans will be done away with... and left alone in states where it favors the Dems. Hillary will easily win re-election in 2020 due mainly because the GOP voting base either disengages from elections or has died off. Soon thereafter Obamacare is abolished along with Medicare & Medicaid and replaced with universal healthcare. In 2024, the GOP has to bus in "paid" audience members to their convention to fill in the empty seats so it doesnt look bad on television.

                            Enjoy the next 10 years!
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Lajntx View Post
                              Nothing will happen or change because conservatives refuse to change with modern society, and their power shrinks everyday as yet another senior citizen in a southern state passes on to the next life.

                              Enjoy the next 10 years!
                              Senior citizens tend to vote Democratic, since Democrats favor the entitlement programs that favor seniors. Ignorance is one of your strong suits obviously.

                              I certainly will enjoy the next ten years, as I will be retired within that time frame and thus will begin feeding at the benefit trough thanks to your most generous transfer of tax dollars to me. Maybe there will be some left for chumps like you, maybe not. Either way enjoy your future, knowing that I got mine!

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