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  • DSM: Not all pedophiles have disorder

    TLDR: If you don't feel bad about wanting to fuck children, you don't have a disorder. And people wonder why I quit the psych program.

    In a move toward destigmatizing pedophilia, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) in its updated Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), distinguishes between pedophiles who desire sex with children, and those who act on those desires.

    The former group -- those who want to have sex with children but whose desires are not distressing or harmful to themselves or others -- is no longer classified as having a psychiatric condition in the updated DSM.

    "The difference [from the last edition of the DSM] is, you're not automatically saying that as soon as someone has a marked, unusual erotic interest that they have a mental disorder," said Ray Blanchard, who cowrote the chapter on sexual disorders in the new DSM.

    The change in the DSM, a kind of Bible among medical professionals, lawmakers, and drug and insurance companies, doesn't just apply to pedophilia, but to several other deviant sexual desires listed in the manual. It represents "a subtle but crucial difference that makes it possible for an individual to engage in consensual atypical sexual behavior without inappropriately being labeled with a mental disorder," explains the APA in its DSM-5 Paraphilic Disorders Fact Sheet.

    The new manual specifies that in order for an atypical sexual behavior to be classified as a mental condition, a person must:

    1. Feel personal distress about their interest, not merely distress resulting from society's disapproval; or
    2. have a sexual desire or behavior that involves another person's psychological distress, injury, or death, or a desire for sexual behaviors involving unwilling persons or persons unable to give legal consent.

    It's important to note that the actual diagnostic criteria for pedophilia have not changed since the last version of the DSM, but what was once known as pedophilia is now called "pedophilia disorder," the APA pointed out in an emailed statement to The Huffington Post.

    The DSM has consistently evolved in its views on sexuality. As Jillian Keenan points out at Slate, the first version of the DSM called any kind of homosexuality a mental disorder, but in the 1960s it was changed to say that people who were comfortable being gay didn't have a psychiatric condition.

    Blanchard questioned the need to label non-criminal behavior as mental illness:

    "If you take [an] individual who has a very strong erotic attraction for children, but who has never acted on it, who never would act on it, who agrees that society's prohibition of adult child sexual interactions should be in place, do you want to say this individual has a mental disorder?"
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  • #2
    There is a lot of contraversy around the DSM these days. Mainly in that it shouldn't be a "bible" of medical disorders. Also, many prosecutors use this as a guide when whether to charge people with a crime. It was never meant to be used for that.

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    • #3
      In the 60's they removed homosexuality because of a push from the gay movement. One would assume they did this for the same reason. Make pedophilia mainstream by first destigmatizing it. I'm pretty sure that I've been called all sorts of names for comparing the gay rights movement to this yet it seems I'm right.

      I used to get in trouble by opening the DSM 4 and pointing at something at random and diagnosing my professors with whatever I felt like. I even did it to my VA shrink and she agrees with me. The DSM is BS
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Sgt Beavis View Post
        There is a lot of contraversy around the DSM these days. Mainly in that it shouldn't be a "bible" of medical disorders. Also, many prosecutors use this as a guide when whether to charge people with a crime. It was never meant to be used for that.
        The mental illnesses are no longer based on measurable guide lines, they all revolve around opinions and those opinions are getting peopled labelled. Once they are labelled as mentally ill, their life is fucked.

        It is screwed up that a doctor can deem you mentally ill if you are unsocial, but mentally healthy if you want to fuck toddlers.

        Stevo
        Originally posted by SSMAN
        ...Welcome to the land of "Fuck it". No body cares, and if they do, no body cares.

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