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    In a leak to the Washington Post Friday, a White House official said the administration ”does not see a legal way for individuals in multiemployer group health plans to receive individual market tax credits as well as the favorable tax treatment associated with employer-provided health insurance at the same time.”

    The official said the White House is working to find a compromise.

    “The Administration will work with multiemployer plans and other non-profit plans and encourage them to offer coverage through the Marketplace, on an equal footing, to create new, high-quality, affordable options for all Americans,” the official says.

    But that may not be enough to placate certain union bosses.

    “[T]hey’re not necessarily happy about it,” the Washington Post reports, adding labor bosses are looking into the idea. “It means giving up the advantages they get by being associated with employers, and it will entail significant disruption for their members.”

    Following the Washington Post’s revelation, the Treasury Department issued a formal letter explaining the White House’s reason for turning down union requests (see attached below).

    Treasury’s announcement comes just days after the AFL-CIO, one of the largest private sector unions in the United States, passed a resolution stating Obamacare, which it branded as “highly disruptive,” will force workers and employers to abandon their union-sponsored health plans because they’ll become too costly.

    And some union bosses say the resolution didn’t go far enough.

    Sean McGarvey, head of the AFL-CIO’s Building and Construction Trades Department, submitted a draft saying Obamacare needs to be repealed unless it Congress amends it to offer protection for union multi-employer plans, CBS News notes.

    The final AFL-CIO resolution claims Obamacare will drive up the cost of health care plans jointly administered by unions and employers in construction and similar industries.

    Union bosses fought vigorously to have the law changed so that it would “make their low-income workers eligible for the same types of federal subsidies they could get in the exchanges,” CBS explains.

    “They have also suggested rules that would treat their multi-employer plans as qualified exchange plans under the new law,” the report adds.

    AFL-CIO boss Richard Trumka even traveled to the White House several times to see if he could change their minds on Obamacare.

    During the apparently failed negotiations, the Congressional Research Service said that requested changes would be unlawful.

    The White House reportedly instructed labor leaders not to voice their misgiving in the form of a resolution, a source told the Associated Press.

    The source, who spoke on the condition on anonymity, said union leaders explained the resolution was to bring attention to their concerns.

    When asked if it had taken steps to discourage the resolution, the White House said in a statement Wednesday night that administration officials “are in regular contact with a variety of stakeholders, including unions, as part of our efforts to ensure smooth implementation and to improve the law.”

    Denied: Unions Denied Waiver Protection From Highly Disruptive Obamacare, Labor Boss Dodging Media
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    And on Friday, just before Treasury made its announcement and just after union bosses met at the White House to discuss their Obamacare woes, Trumka was in no mood to speak with the press.

    A group of reporters asked the labor boss what his top policy “ask” was, to which he reportedly responded that his wish was for ”you all to stop following me,” POLITCO reports.

    Trumka met for more than an hour behind closed-door with President Obama and top White House officials, the report notes.

    “It was a good meeting,” Trumka said after the meeting. “We’re continuing to work on problem solving. You’ve got the only quote you’re going to get.”

    The White House declined to say who was at the meeting.

    Here’s the full Treasury letter:
    I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

  • #2
    I had a question today, wtf does one sign up for this horseshit? There was an article about the penalties and costs associated with Obamacare but little indication of how to get compliant.

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    • #3
      You can't sign up until October first, at which point the sites are supposed to come online for you to shop. No state has a working one
      I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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      • #4
        Just got the corporate email today about the implications of Obamacare. thrilled.

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        • #5
          I haven't heard a single thing yet about it at my work. I'm "Muslim" anyways so i'll be exempt.

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          • #6
            Our company sent out an email a few weeks ago, saying that insurance costs will go up 6%. I've already given HR an earful, letting them know that I am NOT going to play the Obamacare game. If insurance get's too expensive, I am dropping it and when the IRS comes calling, things will get really ugly from there. They ARE NOT going to force me to buy insurance and I am NOT going to pay the penalty either. If they steal it out of my taxes, then I will treat them like thieves. I believe the law in Texas says I can use deadly force to stop a thief.

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            • #7
              Tenacity!!! Love it!

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              • #8
                Yep, they mad.



                A leading labor union boss delivered an impassioned rebuke of Obamacare at the AFL-CIO convention Thursday, telling attendees, "we'll be damned if we're going to lose our health insurance because of unintended consequences in the law!"
                Laborers' International Union of North America (LIUNA) President Terry O'Sullivan said, "if the Affordable Care Act is not fixed, and it destroys the health and welfare funds that we have all fought for and stand for, then I believe it needs to be repealed. We don't want it repealed. We want it fixed, fixed, fixed."

                O'Sullivan added: "We can't have the unintended consequences for the proud men and women that we represent to be collateral damage in the healthcare fight in this country."

                Big Labor strongly backed Obamacare before its passage. Now unions say the law threatens to destroy union workers' health insurance plans if changes are not made soon.

                Last week, the AFL-CIO passed a strongly-worded resolution blasting Obamacare despite the Obama Administration's attempts to quell union opposition to aspects of the government healthcare overhaul.

                O'Sullivan, borrowing from Vice President Joe Biden's vulgar words whispered to President Barack Obama upon signing the bill, told the audience, "It's going to be a big frickin' deal if our members lose our health insurance!"

                Republicans say union members should not be granted special breaks for the Obamacare law they fought to see pass. Sen. John Thune (R-SD) introduced a bill Monday called the Union Bailout Prevention Act to stop the White House from granting unions Obamacare waivers or special taxpayer-funded premium tax subsidies.

                “Despite championing ObamaCare’s passage in 2010, union leaders are now awaking to the ugly reality of ObamaCare that most Americans have predicted all along, including higher health care costs,” said Thune. “Now that the full consequences of the Democrats’ law are nearing, these same union leaders are seeking a special backroom deal from the White House."

                Obamacare's government healthcare exchanges open in 17 days.
                I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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                • #9
                  Idiots. If anyone deserves it, they do.

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                  • #10
                    they got what they asked for.
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                    • #11
                      My health insurance went up from 47.50 a paycheck to 82.00. These idiots wanted obamacare, so give it to them.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                        Yep, they mad.



                        A leading labor union boss delivered an impassioned rebuke of Obamacare at the AFL-CIO convention Thursday, telling attendees, "we'll be damned if we're going to lose our health insurance because of unintended consequences in the law!"
                        Laborers' International Union of North America (LIUNA) President Terry O'Sullivan said, "if the Affordable Care Act is not fixed, and it destroys the health and welfare funds that we have all fought for and stand for, then I believe it needs to be repealed. We don't want it repealed. We want it fixed, fixed, fixed."

                        O'Sullivan added: "We can't have the unintended consequences for the proud men and women that we represent to be collateral damage in the healthcare fight in this country."

                        Big Labor strongly backed Obamacare before its passage. Now unions say the law threatens to destroy union workers' health insurance plans if changes are not made soon.

                        Last week, the AFL-CIO passed a strongly-worded resolution blasting Obamacare despite the Obama Administration's attempts to quell union opposition to aspects of the government healthcare overhaul.

                        O'Sullivan, borrowing from Vice President Joe Biden's vulgar words whispered to President Barack Obama upon signing the bill, told the audience, "It's going to be a big frickin' deal if our members lose our health insurance!"

                        Republicans say union members should not be granted special breaks for the Obamacare law they fought to see pass. Sen. John Thune (R-SD) introduced a bill Monday called the Union Bailout Prevention Act to stop the White House from granting unions Obamacare waivers or special taxpayer-funded premium tax subsidies.

                        “Despite championing ObamaCare’s passage in 2010, union leaders are now awaking to the ugly reality of ObamaCare that most Americans have predicted all along, including higher health care costs,” said Thune. “Now that the full consequences of the Democrats’ law are nearing, these same union leaders are seeking a special backroom deal from the White House."

                        Obamacare's government healthcare exchanges open in 17 days.
                        They are talking out of both sides of their collective mouths. "If we can't have cheap healthcare and all of its advantages without having to pay for it, then we want it changed so that it is". They are some stupid motherfuckers; pun intended.

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                        • #13
                          Unions are getting just what they paid for...socialist oBama crap...

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                          • #14
                            We already had at least one increase soon after it passed. I am sure that is not the only one coming.
                            I don't like Republicans, but I really FUCKING hate Democrats.


                            Sex with an Asian woman is great, but 30 minutes later you're horny again.

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                            • #15
                              Amazing by all the complaining by those who have health insurance about their small increases. Lets see what you say in the future when you wont be getting any denial letters or loss of coverages because the insurance company wanted to drop you. I know many full time workers in Texas that dont get anything but a paycheck because their employer is either opposed to providing health care coverage or too cheap too offer it. Those people would be thrilled to have coverage at those prices.

                              I guess some people will never be happy

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