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    Please let Obama be known as the president that reinstated the draft. Please.

    On Sunday, Congressman and criminal ethics violator Charlie Rangel (D-NY) renewed his call to reinstate the national draft, just ahead of votes on war with Syria. The New York representative argued that a vote should be held on mandatory military service before a decision is made to attack Syria.

    "I truly believe we should have a National Draft Act before the Congress acts," Rangel told MSNBC.

    Rangel, a veteran of the Korean War, has been introducing legislation for years to do this, and this year he even included women.

    The Hill reports:

    The New York lawmaker said the burden of war unfairly falls on lower-income Americans.

    "They are not in the Hamptons. They are not in the wealthy neighborhoods," he said.

    Rangel, a former chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee and the third-longest-serving member of Congress, has made it clear he will vote "no" on a forthcoming resolution seeking congressional approval for limited strikes on Syria.

    Although Rangel said he is satisfied that Syrian President Bashar Assad is responsible for poison gas attacks on his own people last month, he argued it is not the U.S.'s responsibility to respond on behalf of the world.

    "There is no mandate that the United States of America has to get rid of every evil person," Rangel said.

    "If it's an international problem it should be an international solution."

    Rangel said he would not attend a Sunday afternoon "members-only" briefing for lawmakers on Capitol Hill about the proposed Syrian military strike because he could not justify the use of force to his constituents.

    "If I have the slightest idea how this gross violation of international law affects citizens of the United States of America, my ears are open to see the connection," he said.

    Finally, Mediaite has this little blurb from Rangel on the draft:

    In an appearance on MSNBC alongside New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof, Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-NY) told anchor Chris Jansing on Wednesday that he supports President Barack Obama's call for military action in Syria. However, he said that he does not support unilateral military action or action that is not sanctioned by Congress. Rangel added that Congress would not exhibit an "overwhelming sense of patriotism" in support for military action if there was a compulsory draft in place.

    "For all of these excursions and intrusions militarily, if members of Congress thought for one minute that they were talking about drafting their kids and their grandkids, you would not see this overwhelming sense of patriotism that you're seeing," Rangel insisted.

    "There must be other kids besides American kids that understand that this is an international travesty," he continued. "We should provide the leadership, but to go it alone – I don't understand it."

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  • #2
    What an idiot. I would say I'm glad to be 36 for the first time, but it will never happen after the Vietnam fiasco.

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    • #3
      Could you imagine if Obama thought his daughters would be called up for draft duty? I mean, we're already being told his daughters are on Assad's hit list
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      • #4
        Charlie Wrangle is a model 1, mark 1 piece of shit. Fuck that ass clown.
        ZOMBIE REAGAN FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!! heh

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
          Could you imagine if Obama thought his daughters would be called up for draft duty? I mean, we're already being told his daughters are on Assad's hit list
          He should man up and have them join the military like Prince William and Prince Harry did.

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          • #6
            I'll die before I swear an oath to Obama.
            Originally posted by lincolnboy
            After watching Games of Thrones, makes me glad i was not born in those years.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DOHCTR View Post
              I'll die before I swear an oath to Obama.
              And on that we agree.
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              • #8
                didnt bush try to do this back in the early 200's also?
                THE BAD HOMBRE

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by naynay View Post
                  didnt bush try to do this back in the early 200's also?
                  Rangel has been at it for a while

                  Originally posted by rangel
                  Rangel introduced the The National Universal Service Act (H.R. 747) for the sixth time since first being proposed in 2003 during the Iraq war. H.R 747 "would require 30 million people in the United States between the ages of 18 and 25 to perform two years of national service in either the armed services or in civilian life."
                  Is this really just an effort to reign in the willy-nilly "jump at every cause"?

                  Saying that congress wouldn't think to pass a vote to go to war if they thought their sons & grandsons would be conscripted... Who is he kidding with that line of shit?

                  The bit about people from the hamptons don't go to war, sounds like a play from the dem's operations & procedures manual, under the class warfare chapter.
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                  • #10
                    Now wait just a fucking minute. Haven't most folks on this board agreed or commented that mandatory service would be good for our society? Teaches honor, commitment, sacrifice, patriotism, responsibility and a host of other things that MOST if not 99% of our fucking kids coming out of high school lack these days.

                    I thought it was the general additude here, that to be a "Citizen" service should be required. aka Starship Motherfucking Troopers.

                    I think we would have fewer liberal douchebags running around if that were the case for our males. The females are a lost cause. Mandatory sandwich making would be better for us guys.
                    Fuck you. We're going to Costco.

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                    • #11
                      Umm it would bankrupt the us if they had a milliom man standing army much less a 30 million.. What does China have 5 million?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by kbscobravert View Post
                        Now wait just a fucking minute. Haven't most folks on this board agreed or commented that mandatory service would be good for our society? Teaches honor, commitment, sacrifice, patriotism, responsibility and a host of other things that MOST if not 99% of our fucking kids coming out of high school lack these days.

                        I thought it was the general additude here, that to be a "Citizen" service should be required. aka Starship Motherfucking Troopers.

                        I think we would have fewer liberal douchebags running around if that were the case for our males. The females are a lost cause. Mandatory sandwich making would be better for us guys.
                        I am for civil service, but not mandatory military service. I like the German model of Ziildienst. You were (until 2011) given the option of either mandatory military conscription into the Bundeswehr or you could choose to help in hospitals, retirement homes, emergency medical services, environmental protection, agriculture, or public administration. My friend Saarko from Lower Saxony was a sports coach for a team of kids playing basketball or something because he wanted to become a coach in the future and went to school for it. He said that while mandatory, the experience was a good thing and helped with his career path.
                        Originally posted by lincolnboy
                        After watching Games of Thrones, makes me glad i was not born in those years.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by kbscobravert View Post
                          Now wait just a fucking minute. Haven't most folks on this board agreed or commented that mandatory service would be good for our society? Teaches honor, commitment, sacrifice, patriotism, responsibility and a host of other things that MOST if not 99% of our fucking kids coming out of high school lack these days.

                          I thought it was the general additude here, that to be a "Citizen" service should be required. aka Starship Motherfucking Troopers.

                          I think we would have fewer liberal douchebags running around if that were the case for our males. The females are a lost cause. Mandatory sandwich making would be better for us guys.
                          I do recall something along the lines of that.

                          Originally posted by DOHCTR View Post
                          I am for civil service, but not mandatory military service. I like the German model of Ziildienst. You were (until 2011) given the option of either mandatory military conscription into the Bundeswehr or you could choose to help in hospitals, retirement homes, emergency medical services, environmental protection, agriculture, or public administration. My friend Saarko from Lower Saxony was a sports coach for a team of kids playing basketball or something because he wanted to become a coach in the future and went to school for it. He said that while mandatory, the experience was a good thing and helped with his career path.
                          That makes a lot of damn sense. I can get behind it.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DOHCTR View Post
                            I am for civil service, but not mandatory military service. I like the German model of Ziildienst. You were (until 2011) given the option of either mandatory military conscription into the Bundeswehr or you could choose to help in hospitals, retirement homes, emergency medical services, environmental protection, agriculture, or public administration. My friend Saarko from Lower Saxony was a sports coach for a team of kids playing basketball or something because he wanted to become a coach in the future and went to school for it. He said that while mandatory, the experience was a good thing and helped with his career path.
                            Not a bad alternative; as great an experience I think the military was for me and how much I think it would benefit a lot of youth, we simply cannot afford that large of a military, nor can I justify it.

                            That being said, Rangel is a piece of shit, but at least he included women in his draft proposal, and I do give him a thumbs up for that. Being treated as equals means equal in everything.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by LANTIRN View Post
                              Not a bad alternative; as great an experience I think the military was for me and how much I think it would benefit a lot of youth, we simply cannot afford that large of a military, nor can I justify it.

                              That being said, Rangel is a piece of shit, but at least he included women in his draft proposal, and I do give him a thumbs up for that. Being treated as equals means equal in everything.
                              Agreed on all points.
                              Originally posted by lincolnboy
                              After watching Games of Thrones, makes me glad i was not born in those years.

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