Another viewpoint - Syrian rebels gassed their own people...with USA help

[cyclonescott]

I know a lot of Iranians, some of them still go back to visit. I have yet to find one who says they are better off now.

The difference is, under the Shah the US didn’t have sanctions against the country. The Shah was a puppet for the US government. The people of Iran were still repressed if they spoke up against the government and could be taken and tortured. My point is the people there are getting the raw end of the deal. Our sanctions aren’t going to affect the politician way of life. They are going to hurt the everyday person.

[Captain Crawfish]

Rush Limbaugh haha it must be true

[cyclonescott]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzDFqVdd80c&feature=youtu.be

[Vertnut]

no one of color is better off in america. hell even people with no color would be better off in their home countries.

Yet you keep hanging in.

[jones4stangs]

I just heard a few minutes of Rush talking about an article that says their is mounting evidence that the rebels gassed their own people and are trying to frame Assad (could not find article yet). I am not saying I believe this but from the intelligence released to the general public this makes more sense. Assad had no reason to gas that area, they were strongly ahead in that region and there was no major strategic value in bombing the area.

Here is an English translation of the French intelligence report on the alleged chemical weapons attack last month

http://www.scribd.com/doc/165224353/...d-Intelligence

In combats against the opposition, President Assad’s regime has already used such weapons,including sarin, in limited attacks against the population, in particular in April 2013. The analysis of information we have now gathered leads us to consider that, on August 21, 2013, the Syrian regimehas launched an attack on some suburbs of Damascus that were being held by the opposition forces,using together conventional means and a large amount of chemical agents.

4. – The 21 August attack can only have been ordered and lead by the regime

The combined attack lead on August 21 corresponds to a classical tactical pattern (artillerypreparation, then ground offensive) and the use of chemical agents was integrated in a tacticalmaneuver consistent, on a military level, with the Syrian armed forces’ doctrine. Reliable intelligencefrom several of our partners mentions specific preparations in the days just before August 21.

Conventional air and artillery bombardments took place between 3 and 4 am on the Ghouta East. In parallel, the locations of Zamalka, Kafr Batna and Ayn Tarma were reached by chemical attacks. At 6am, a ground offensive was launched by the regime against these cities.

Several sources mention the use of artillery rockets, different from those of the best known ammunition stock (missiles and bombs). Our technical analyses confirm that the rest of rockets observed on that occasion, as for some previous and local operations, allow the use of chemical agents.

The regime then lead important air and ground strikes on the attacked areas. It made efforts to delay the arrival of inspectors over several days. These elements confirm a clear willingness to destroy any evidencea posteriori . Furthermore, the military set off fires, aiming apparently at purifying the atmosphere thanks to the air movement generated by the intense heat.

Our intelligence confirms that the regime feared a wider attack from the opposition on Damascus at that moment. Our assessment is that the regime was trying by this attack to loosen the grip and to secure sites strategic to control of the capital. For example, the area of Moadamiyé is located close to the Mezzeh military airfield, which houses the barracks of the Air Force intelligence.

Anyhow it is clear, by examining the targets of the attack, than only the regime itself could have targeted positions that were so strategic for the opposition.

Finally, we consider that the Syrian opposition does not have the capacity to lead an operation of that size with chemical agents. No group belonging to the Syrian opposition has, at this stage, the capacity to stock and use these agents, and even more in proportions comparable to what was used on the night of August, 21 in Damascus. These groups have neither the experience, nor the know-how to implement them, particularly through vectors as those that were used during the August 21attack.

[jones4stangs]

The British
From the Chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee

https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...with_annex.pdf

It is being claimed, including by the regime, that the attacks were either faked or undertaken by the Syrian Armed Opposition. We have tested this assertion using a wide range of intelligence and open sources, and invited HMG and outside experts to help us establish whether such a thing is possible. There is no credible intelligence or other evidence to substantiate the claims or the possession of CW by the opposition. The JIC has therefore concluded that there are no plausible alternative scenarios to regime responsibility.

We also have a limited but growing body of intelligence which supports the judgement that the regime was responsible for the attacks and that they were conducted to help clear the Opposition from strategic parts of Damascus.

[jones4stangs]

The White House

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...pons-august-21

We assess with high confidence that the Syrian government carried out the chemical weapons attack against opposition elements in the Damascus suburbs on August 21. We assess that the scenario in which the opposition executed the attack on August 21 is highly unlikely. The body of information used to make this assessment includes intelligence pertaining to the regime’s preparations for this attack and its means of delivery, multiple streams of intelligence about the attack itself and its effect, our post-attack observations, and the differences between the capabilities of the regime and the opposition. Our high confidence assessment is the strongest position that the U.S. Intelligence Community can take short of confirmation.

[bcoop]

The White House

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...pons-august-21

We assess with high confidence that the Syrian government carried out the chemical weapons attack against opposition elements in the Damascus suburbs on August 21. We assess that the scenario in which the opposition executed the attack on August 21 is highly unlikely. The body of information used to make this assessment includes intelligence pertaining to the regime’s preparations for this attack and its means of delivery, multiple streams of intelligence about the attack itself and its effect, our post-attack observations, and the differences between the capabilities of the regime and the opposition. Our high confidence assessment is the strongest position that the U.S. Intelligence Community can take short of confirmation.

Of course you believe the White House... Funny how you didn't believe them about Iraq, however. You should change your screen name to John Kerry.

I'm not really saying one way or another, but I am saying the White House under the current admin has lied repeatedly, and I have a hard time believing anything they say.

[otrtruckpro]

no one of color is better off in america. hell even people with no color would be better off in their home countries.

Why can't People of color create and/or maintain a Advanced civilized Nation. History proves that 10,000 years of evolution advancement negros and browns can't do it. Look at any place where blacks are in charge. It's a failure . Just here in the States, Detroit,Philly,D.C. All ofCalifornia,Arizona,Milwaukee,Chicago, Indiana and the list goes on and on. All run by Negros, All failed, All corrupt. Is that Bush's Fault to?

[Vertnut]

LMAO at the French. They've been there every time they've needed us. You can get really good deals on French military rifles...never fired and dropped only once.

[Mach1]

Why can't People of color create and/or maintain a Advanced civilized Nation. History proves that 10,000 years of evolution advancement negros and browns can't do it. Look at any place where blacks are in charge. It's a failure . Just here in the States, Detroit,Philly,D.C. All ofCalifornia,Arizona,Milwaukee,Chicago, Indiana and the list goes on and on. All run by Negros, All failed, All corrupt. Is that Bush's Fault to?

[bcoop]

That dude had a hate fueled rant on Jewish people a couple months back that would make Hitler proud. Get rid of him, no loss.

[naynay]

Just here in the States, Detroit,Philly,D.C. All ofCalifornia,Arizona,Milwaukee,Chicago, Indiana and the list goes on and on. All run by Negros, All failed, All corrupt. Is that Bush's Fault to?

what do you mean "run by negros"?

how did we go from a topic on "world war 3" to talking about midwestern united states?

[Vertnut]

Why can't People of color create and/or maintain a Advanced civilized Nation. History proves that 10,000 years of evolution advancement negros and browns can't do it. Look at any place where blacks are in charge. It's a failure . Just here in the States, Detroit,Philly,D.C. All ofCalifornia,Arizona,Milwaukee,Chicago, Indiana and the list goes on and on. All run by Negros, All failed, All corrupt. Is that Bush's Fault to?

Damn. You about covered it. Black folks running Arizona? I hear they have their own water fountains now! Might cut some eye-holes in that hood so you can see better.

[stevo]

what do you mean "run by negros"?

how did we go from a topic on "world war 3" to talking about midwestern united states?

Some negro made the comment "no one of color is better off in america". He made the point that the negros themselves are making it worse for themselves, and cited specific places in our country that prove it. Try to follow along.

Stevo