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Originally posted by naynay View Postso if he were out of office, who would make the call and how could they make it any better? i thought it was a lose/lose situation. who could win it? what would you do kyle? i mean as of today, september 3, 2013. WHAT WOULD YOU DO?
It is a lose lose situation, if we act we're drawn into a fucked up war with a fuzzy definition of the enemy. if we dont act, there is the possibility that more innocent people will die at the hands of their own government.
I don't know what I would do, but i'm also not CIC. I don't have the experience or international political savvy to know what is best in this instance. But if we act, are we also obligated to stop the genocides in africa, the slaughter of female babies in china, etc..? it's a slippery slope. I don't think there's a 'right' answer, as someone gets fucked no matter what.
What would naynay do?
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Originally posted by lo3oz View PostNow Obama a) gets what he wants and we attack or b) the rs stifle it and he turns it into " republicans love baby massacres" nonsense.
This really is the definition of being between a rock and a hard place. Get this asshole out of office already.
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Originally posted by Cooter View Postperpetual war
“The war, therefore if we judge it by the standards of previous wars, is merely an imposture. It is like the battles between certain ruminant animals whose horns are incapable of hurting one another. But though it is unreal it is not meaningless. It eats up the surplus of consumable goods, and it helps to preserve the special mental atmosphere that the hierarchical society needs. War, it will be seen, is now a purely internal affair. In the past, the ruling groups of all countries, although they might recognize their common interest and therefore limit the destructiveness of war, did fight against one another, and the victor always plundered the vanquished. In our own day they are not fighting against one another at all. The war is waged by each ruling group against its own subjects, and the object of the war is not to make or prevent conquests of territory, but to keep the structure of society intact. The very word "war," therefore, has become misleading. It would probably be accurate to say that by becoming continuous war has ceased to exist. The peculiar pressure that is exerted on human beings between the Neolithic Age and the early twentieth century has disappeared and has been replaced by something quite different. The effect would be much the same if the three superstates, instead of fighting one another, should agree to live in perpetual peace, each inviolate within its own boundaries. For in that case each would still be a self-contained universe, freed forever from the sobering influence of external danger. A peace that was truly permanent would be the same as a permanent war. This--although the vast majority of Party members understand it only in a shallower sense--is the inner meaning of the Party slogan: WAR IS PEACE.”
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Originally posted by Forever_frost View PostPic: McRINO Plays Poker On His iPhone During Senate Hearing On Syria…
Well done, McRINO.
Senator John McCain plays poker on his IPhone during a U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations hearing where Secretary of State JohnKerry, Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel, and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Martin Dempsey testify concerning the use of force in Syria, on Capitol Hill in Washington DC, Tuesday, September 3, 2013. (Photo by Melina Mara/The Washington Post)
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Pic: McRINO Plays Poker On His iPhone During Senate Hearing On Syria…
Well done, McRINO.
Senator John McCain plays poker on his IPhone during a U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations hearing where Secretary of State JohnKerry, Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel, and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Martin Dempsey testify concerning the use of force in Syria, on Capitol Hill in Washington DC, Tuesday, September 3, 2013. (Photo by Melina Mara/The Washington Post)
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Originally posted by roliath View PostGo awol or stfu imo. You can't choose your battles, you knew what you were getting into. Also isn't protesting in uniform a violation of ucmj?
I like this guys' version.
Stevo
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Originally posted by SS Junk View PostBoehner is such a pussy.
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These idiots pleading with the senators for the use of force genuinely seem to have no grasp of the likelihood of third-party retaliation, no clue about cause and effect.
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Originally posted by samuel642000 View PostThere's a huge difference between serving loyally, and blindly obeying.
The SS were just "Doing their duty"
As for the photos, what kind of proof do we have that these are American soldiers? It was a hacker group that posted them, it's not really that difficult to get a buch of uniforms and stage photos. It's also not that hard to superimpose a note onto a crappy quality photo. If they aren't willing to show their faces their message is meaningless. I'm going to assume it's propoganda.
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This is going to be a fucking disaster. Obama knows dick about acting like a man, so relying on him for a military decision should deliver multiple 5000* dicks into the ass of this country (and I'm not talking about Detroit or NO).
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