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Originally posted by stevo View PostDid I say they were?
No, I said he will be setting himself up to stay in office longer than two terms. And I mentioned that Roosevelt stayed longer than two terms. Roosevelt used the war to garner support to be able to stay in office beyond what was the normally excepted limit. It was commonly agreed that a president to not stay in office beyond two terms, but Roosevelt decided to go against it. And since 0bama can not legally stay in office longer than two terms, he will do what ever it takes, specifically use Martial Law to suspend elections.
Stevo"Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey
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Russia’s Moskva missile cruiser, dubbed a “carrier-killer” by NATO, has passed through the Straits of Gibraltar and is now heading toward the eastern Mediterranean to assume command of the Russian naval force there.
Russia’s ‘carrier-killer’ Moskva enters Mediterranean
Published time: September 11, 2013 15:18
Edited time: September 11, 2013 18:11 Get short URL
Missile cruiser "Moskva" (RIA Novosti/Vitaliy Ankov)Missile cruiser "Moskva" (RIA Novosti/Vitaliy Ankov)
Russia’s Moskva missile cruiser, dubbed a “carrier-killer” by NATO, has passed through the Straits of Gibraltar and is now heading toward the eastern Mediterranean to assume command of the Russian naval force there.
The Russian Navy said in a statement that the Moskva cruiser passed through the Straits of Gibraltar on September 10.
Interfax news agency added that the Moskva cruiser, “commanded by Sergey Tronev, Captain 1st Rank of the Guards… has enough room for maneuver now.”
“The Black Sea flagship entered the Russian Navy's area of responsibility in the Mediterranean at 11:00 pm Moscow time yesterday," the agency reported a military source as saying.
The missile-carrying cruiser is expected to join its final destination in eastern Mediterranean on September 15 or 16.
Upon arrival, the command of the Russian Navy unit in the Mediterranean, currently stationed onboard the Admiral Panteleyev anti-submarine ship, will be relocated to the Moskva.
"The armaments and technical equipment of the missile cruiser are in working condition. The crew is ready to perform combat missions,” the source said.
Missile cruiser "Moskva" belonging to Russia's Black Sea Fleet firing anti-aircraft missiles during joint drills with other fleets. (RIA Novosti/Vitaliy Ankov)Missile cruiser "Moskva" belonging to Russia's Black Sea Fleet firing anti-aircraft missiles during joint drills with other fleets. (RIA Novosti/Vitaliy Ankov)
The missile cruiser, initially known to Western naval intelligence as “Slava” (Glory), was launched in 1979 and entered service in 1983. It was later renamed the “Moskva” in 1995. Designed to be carrier-killers, the cruisers of Class 1164 are equipped with 16 anti-ship launchers P-1000 Vulkan, or Volcano (SS-N-12 Sandbox anti-ship missiles, according to NATO classification).
‘Moskva’ weaponry
-16x SS-N-12 Sandbox anti-ship missiles
- 8x8 (64) S-300PMU Favorit (SA-N-6 Grumble) long-range surface-to-air missiles
-2x20 (40) OSA-MA (SA-N-4 Gecko) SR SAM
-1x twin AK-130 130mm/L70 dual-purpose guns
-6xAK-630 close-in weapons systems
-2x RBU-6000 anti-submarine mortars
-10x (2 quin) 533mm torpedo tubes
Armor: Splinter plating
Aircraft carried: 1 Ka-25 or Ka-27 helicopter
Another two vessels, the landing ship Nikolay Filchenkov and the guard ship Smetlivy, will join the Russian naval unit later. They will be pass through the Bosporus and Dardanelles straits by September 12-14 and will then head to the eastern Mediterranean.
Russia’s Defense Ministry has said the maneuvers are part of the “stage-by-stage rotation of warships and support ships of the standing naval force in the Mediterranean.”
The recent deployments are aimed at “complex monitoring” of the situation around Syria, military sources told Interfax earlier.
Russia’s standing naval force in the Mediterranean now involves landing craft carriers “Aleksandr Shabalin,” “Admiral Nevelskoy,” “Peresvet,” “Novocherkassk” and “Minsk” of Russia’s Black and Baltic Sea Fleets, as well as escort vessel “Neustrashimy,” and the anti-submarine ship “Admiral Panteleyev.”
"Admiral Panteleyev" anti-submarine ship returning to Vladivostok from Japanese port Hakodate (Hokkaido island). (RIA Novosti/Vitaliy Ankov)"Admiral Panteleyev" anti-submarine ship returning to Vladivostok from Japanese port Hakodate (Hokkaido island). (RIA Novosti/Vitaliy Ankov)
Russian naval maneuvers in the Mediterranean come amid growing tension in the region, which sparked speculation that Russia was boosting its naval presence ahead of a possible US strike against Syria.
Previously, Russia’s defense officials cautioned against making connections between the relocation of warships and the Syrian crisis, saying the maneuvers do not depend on the situation and “will continue after it.”I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool
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The Slava/Moskva and it's sister ships were and are that make the hair on the back of our Navy's neck stand up. We were always cognizant of where they were when we were at sea. They are serious business."It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."
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Originally posted by GhostTX View PostYes, it was "tradition" to step down after two-terms, a precedent that George Washington started because he didn't want Presidents to constantly be in office for fear of a tyrant starting up again. Roosevelt did say "screw it" and constantly ran. You can argue if he was power hungry, or not wanting a change in leadership during a war. The states wisely put in the 22nd amendment after seeing the potential of a popular President constantly being reelected (Roosevelt).
StevoOriginally posted by SSMAN...Welcome to the land of "Fuck it". No body cares, and if they do, no body cares.
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