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    Detroit captured national headlines by declaring bankruptcy, but the Motor City is not the first -- and probably not the last -- American metropolis to face financial ruin.

    It's a fact even the mayor of Detroit, Dave Bing, acknowledged July 20 when he predicted his city was the first of "many dominoes that will fall."

    The situation in Detroit is the result of a unique mix of civic corruption, poor financial planning and economic collapse. But one of the driving factors in Detroit's bankruptcy is an unsustainable public pension crisis, similar to what many other cities are facing.

    In which cities will the next dominos fall? It's hard to tell exactly, but the signs are there.

    In April, Moody's Investors Service, a bond-rating agency, issued a report identifying 29 municipalities selected for review over concerns of credit-worthiness.

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    Their chief concern: Some municipalities are underreporting pension liabilities; the ways in which those large costs are reported can vary widely from place to place.

    "The purpose of the adjustments is to provide greater transparency and comparability in pension liability measures for use in credit analysis," said Timothy Blake, a Moody's managing director.

    Cities on the list for review aren't necessarily facing imminent downgrade, though their mere presence on that list makes it more likely.

    Moody's, as we speak, is re-examining these nine cities:

    Chicago
    Yes, one of the nation's largest cities could soon be headed down the same black hole as Detroit. Moody's downgraded The Windy City's credit rating by three notches last week, as a result of $19 billion in unfunded pension debt.

    But that's only one of several dark clouds on the horizon.

    Another? How about Mayor Rahm Emanuel, President Obama's former chief of staff, telling city employees they should sign up for the federal health insurance exchanges. It's almost as if he might have known the city was running out of money to fund employee health care.

    Sure enough, Pew reports Chicago's retiree health benefits are exactly 0 percent funded. As in, not a single dollar against a $1 billion liability.

    And there doesn't figure to be much help coming from the state level. Illinois is grappling with a $97 billion unfunded pension liability of its own.

    Portland, Ore.
    One has to wonder if Portland might deliberately drive itself into bankruptcy as part of a larger plan to become the hipster capital of the world.

    Regardless, the largest city in Oregon is well on its way to financial trouble. Moody's is reviewing the city's credit rating for its general obligation bonds, but also for Portland's tax obligation bonds, housing bonds and redevelopment bonds. The city has more than $453 million in unfunded pension debt.

    Pew notes Portland "had virtually no asset" to offset unfunded liabilities of $2.3 billion in fiscal 2009 for its pension and disability plan for police and firefighters. The city is essentially paying for the retirement costs of those uniformed employees on a pay-as-you-go basis, which any actuary can tell you is a terrible idea.

    Omaha, Neb.
    Maybe city officials can call Warren Buffett for some advice on handling large sums of money. Buffett's hometown has managed to ring up more than $1.4 billion in pension liabilities and it has only enough cash saved to pay about 43 percent of those costs, according to Pew.

    But Omaha is not on Moody's list, so a downgrade in the immediate future seems unlikely.

    Minneapolis
    One half of the Twin Cities could be facing a credit downgrade from Moody's. St. Paul, it seems, is in the clear, for now.

    Minneapolis has piled up more than $700 million in unfunded pension liabilities, prompting the ratings agency to take another look at the city. Moody's is examining the city's general obligation debt.

    Cincinnati
    Moody's downgraded Cincinnati just last week, after it was placed on the list of possible downgrades in April.

    The ratings agency cited -- surprise, surprise -- pension debt as the main reason for dropping the credit rating for Cincinnati's bonds.

    "The outlook on the city of Cincinnati is negative, reflecting our expectation that the city will continue to face budgetary pressure stemming from required pension contributions to the City Retirement System and potential long-term pressure from its exposure to statewide, multi-employer, cost-sharing pension plans," Moody's wrote.

    The city's unfunded pension liability tops $700 million.

    Providence, R.I.
    The capital of the nation's smallest state is not facing additional scrutiny from Moody's, but it makes our list for having one of the worst-funded pension systems of any major city in the U.S.

    With a funding ratio -- the percentage of pension debt versus current assets to pay -- of 42 percent, Providence's pension mess, per capita, is even worse than Chicago's.

    But Pew notes Providence has taken some steps in the right direction. The city suspended annual cost-of-living adjustments for retirees and now requires all former workers olden than 65 to switch to Medicare instead of receiving health benefits from the city.

    Ah, there's nothing like being able to dump your aging population into a taxpayer-funding health-care system to save your own taxpayer-funded health care system.

    Trenton, N.J.
    Moody's is reviewing general obligation bonds issued by Trenton's public school system. A downgrade on those bonds would follow fast in the footsteps of a citywide downgrade in 2011.

    Mercer County, which houses Trenton, was bumped down a notch by Moody's earlier this year.

    Santa Fe, N.M.
    In putting Santa Fe "on notice" a few months ago, Moody's noted the severity of the city's pension problems. Moody's ranked the city of Santa Fe as the worst in the country, saying it has net pension liabilities equal to six times its operating revenue.

    But Sante Fe's finance director told New Mexico Watchdog he thinks Moody's is way off base.

    "Their calculation is skewed," Marcos Tapia, noting the city is not a Moody's client. "We've told Moody's, we need you to retract this, you need to correct this."

    Moody's is also reviewing two other cities in New Mexico and the credit rating for Santa Fe County.

    Charleston, W.Va.
    Like Providence, Charleston is another state capital that makes our list despite not attracting direct scrutiny from Moody's -- right now. The reason?

    Charleston has the worst-funded pension system of any major city in the United States, with only 24 percent of the necessary funds to cover more than $337 million in pension debt.

    Like Chicago, Charleston won't be able to look to the state for help. West Virginia is dealing with its own pension crisis -- only Illinois has a lower funded ratio of its state pension plans.

    Digging out of the hole is made harder by the high levels of poverty and a declining population, a lesson Detroit learned the hard way.

    Eric Boehm is a reporter for Watchdog.org, which is affiliated with the Franklin Center for Government and Public Integrity.
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  • #2
    well....bye.

    god bless.
    It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men -Frederick Douglass

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    • #3
      where is Garland?

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      • #4
        It's time to piss on the fire and call the dogs in.

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        • #5
          It's funny they blame it on pensions. Bullshit! They have the entire career of each employee to be saving. Pensions should be fully funded at the time of employment.

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          • #6
            all northern cities...
            "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Baron View Post
              all northern cities...
              Santa Fe is in that list, but it is a yankee retiree mecca.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Snatch Napkin View Post
                Santa Fe is in that list, but it is a yankee retiree mecca.
                i missed it.
                "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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                • #9
                  All blue states to except for Nebraska and West Virgina

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by otrtruckpro View Post
                    All blue states to except for Nebraska and West Virgina

                    http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/results/president
                    And it looks like Nebraska refuted it. Moody's doesn't have them on their "look-out" list.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 2011GT View Post
                      It's funny they blame it on pensions. Bullshit! They have the entire career of each employee to be saving. Pensions should be fully funded at the time of employment.
                      wat?
                      Originally posted by davbrucas
                      I want to like Slow99 since people I know say he's a good guy, but just about everything he posts is condescending and passive aggressive.

                      Most people I talk to have nothing but good things to say about you, but you sure come across as a condescending prick. Do you have an inferiority complex you've attempted to overcome through overachievement? Or were you fondled as a child?

                      You and slow99 should date. You both have passive aggressiveness down pat.

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                      • #12
                        What he means is investment hedge fund portfolio margin short net Gordon Gekko.
                        Originally posted by Broncojohnny
                        HOORAY ME and FUCK YOU!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Nash B. View Post
                          What he means is investment hedge fund portfolio margin short net Gordon Gekko.
                          Clearly not service cost interest cost discount rate inflation rate assumed rate return PBO ABO.
                          Originally posted by davbrucas
                          I want to like Slow99 since people I know say he's a good guy, but just about everything he posts is condescending and passive aggressive.

                          Most people I talk to have nothing but good things to say about you, but you sure come across as a condescending prick. Do you have an inferiority complex you've attempted to overcome through overachievement? Or were you fondled as a child?

                          You and slow99 should date. You both have passive aggressiveness down pat.

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                          • #14
                            Portland, Ore.
                            One has to wonder if Portland might deliberately drive itself into bankruptcy as part of a larger plan to become the hipster capital of the world.

                            Regardless, the largest city in Oregon is well on its way to financial trouble. Moody's is reviewing the city's credit rating for its general obligation bonds, but also for Portland's tax obligation bonds, housing bonds and redevelopment bonds. The city has more than $453 million in unfunded pension debt.

                            Pew notes Portland "had virtually no asset" to offset unfunded liabilities of $2.3 billion in fiscal 2009 for its pension and disability plan for police and firefighters. The city is essentially paying for the retirement costs of those uniformed employees on a pay-as-you-go basis, which any actuary can tell you is a terrible idea.
                            Lol.. We were at my dad's place in WA most of last week, which is pretty close to Portland, that is on the other side of the river. Their TV stations are all coming from Portland and watching the news daily tells me they are doomed. Fucking dirtbag wannabe hippies with a desire to live for free at everyone else's expense are overrunning that city and are the sole reason I would not want to move back anywhere near there, as beautiful as the landscape is.

                            One of the biggest stories at the moment is how the city is now enforcing no camping on sidewalks during the day around city hall. Believe it or not, up until about 2 weeks ago there were hundreds of scumbags living on the sidewalk surrounding it. Now they can only be there from 9PM until 7AM.. But they are only enforcing it right in front, so there are still many living on the sidewalks surrounding the general area. From the people I saw on the news stories, these are mostly able bodied folks, largely in their 20's, that appear to be "homeless" purely by choice. They want to live a "nomadic" lifestyle (using their own words). But they don't go anywhere.. So I'm not sure how they consider that "nomadic".

                            In reality they are just self-entitled, worthless pieces of shit that feel the government has an obligation to provide for them. And that last part is not just my opinion. They interviewed many of them who basically said that. "Where are we supposed to go?" they would say. Um, IDK, looking for a job?

                            I feel bad for the "good" citizens up there. They live in, what I believe to be, a virtual paradise, doing their part to provide for themselves and their families. Meanwhile there are hundreds, if not thousands, of money suckers living on the government tit.

                            It's a really strange environment up there, with what seems to me as a huge chasm of people.

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                            • #15
                              The city of Fort Worth laughs at your $453 million unfunded pension plan, Portland.
                              Originally posted by davbrucas
                              I want to like Slow99 since people I know say he's a good guy, but just about everything he posts is condescending and passive aggressive.

                              Most people I talk to have nothing but good things to say about you, but you sure come across as a condescending prick. Do you have an inferiority complex you've attempted to overcome through overachievement? Or were you fondled as a child?

                              You and slow99 should date. You both have passive aggressiveness down pat.

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