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    I thought I would use a Forever_frost tactic to get your attention.



    Federal law dictates that only citizens can vote in federal elections, but today's ruling prohibits states from requiring proof of US citizenship to vote. Even Justice Thomas thinks the decision makes no sense...

    "The Constitution "authorizes states to determine the qualifications of voters in federal elections, which necessarily includes the related power to determine whether those qualifications are satisfied," Thomas said in his dissent."
    Da fuq? Here's the full story.

    Supreme Court: Arizona law requiring citizenship proof for voters is illegal

    Published June 17, 2013

    Associated Press


    WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court ruled Monday that states cannot on their own require would-be voters to prove they are U.S. citizens before using a federal registration system designed to make signing up easier.

    The justices voted 7-2 to throw out Arizona's voter-approved requirement that prospective voters document their U.S. citizenship in order to use a registration form produced under the federal "Motor Voter" voter registration law.

    Federal law "precludes Arizona from requiring a federal form applicant to submit information beyond that required by the form itself," Justice Antonia Scalia wrote for the court's majority.

    The court was considering the legality of Arizona's requirement that prospective voters document their U.S. citizenship in order to use a registration form produced under the federal "motor voter" registration law. The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said that the National Voter Registration Act of 1993, which doesn't require such documentation, trumps Arizona's Proposition 200 passed in 2004.

    Arizona appealed that decision to the Supreme Court.


    "Today's decision sends a strong message that states cannot block their citizens from registering to vote by superimposing burdensome paperwork requirements on top of federal law," said Nina Perales, vice president of litigation for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund and lead counsel for the voters who challenged Proposition 200.

    "The Supreme Court has affirmed that all U.S. citizens have the right to register to vote using the national postcard, regardless of the state in which they live," she said.

    The case focuses on Arizona, which has tangled frequently with the federal government over immigration issues involving the Mexican border. But it has broader implications because four other states -- Alabama, Georgia, Kansas and Tennessee -- have similar requirements, and 12 other states are contemplating such legislation.

    Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito dissented from the court's ruling.


    The Constitution "authorizes states to determine the qualifications of voters in federal elections, which necessarily includes the related power to determine whether those qualifications are satisfied," Thomas said in his dissent.

    Opponents of Arizona's law see it as an attack on vulnerable voter groups such as minorities, immigrants and the elderly. They say they've counted more than 31,000 potentially legal voters in Arizona who easily could have registered before Proposition 200 but were blocked initially by the law in the 20 months after it passed in 2004. They say about 20 percent of those thwarted were Latino.

    Barbara Arnwine, president and executive director of the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, called the decision a victory. "The court has reaffirmed the essential American right to register to vote for federal election without the burdens of state voter suppression measures," she said.

    But Arizona officials say they should be able to pass laws to stop illegal immigrants and other noncitizens from getting on their voting rolls. The Arizona voting law was part of a package that also denied some government benefits to illegal immigrants and required Arizonans to show identification before voting.

    The federal "motor voter" law, enacted in 1993 to expand voter registration, requires states to offer voter registration when a resident applies for a driver's license or certain benefits. Another provision of that law -- the one at issue before the court -- requires states to allow would-be voters to fill out mail-in registration cards and swear they are citizens under penalty of perjury, but it doesn't require them to show proof. Under Proposition 200, Arizona officials require an Arizona driver's license issued after 1996, a U.S. birth certificate, a passport or other similar document, or the state will reject the federal registration application form.

    While the court was clear in stating that states cannot add additional identification requirements to the federal forms on their own, it was also clear that the same actions can be taken by state governments if they get the approval of the federal government and the federal courts.

    Arizona can ask the federal government to include the extra documents as a state-specific requirement, Scalia said, and take any decision made by the government on that request back to court. Other states have already done so, Scalia said.

    The Election Assistance Commission "recently approved a state-specific instruction for Louisiana requiring applicants who lack a Louisiana driver's license, ID card or Social Security number to attach additional documentation to the completed federal form," Scalia said.

    The case is 12-71, Arizona v. Inter Tribal Council of Arizona, Inc.
    When the government pays, the government controls.

  • #2
    If the federal government would actually do something to stop the issue, then the states wouldn't have to intervene. Pretty simple. Fucking SCOTUS is on the take.

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    • #3
      lol at "budensome paperwork." Fucking idiots.

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      • #4
        Same group that said internment was constitutional. Arizona is right. As long as they don't prohibit you from voting based on sex, race or prior servitude, they can do as they like.
        I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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        • #5
          But, but, people can't afford the $10 state ID. It is wrong to make them spend $10 to be given back their right to vote.

          I love that argument.
          Fuck you. We're going to Costco.

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          • #6
            I work with a guy, a self-described liberal guy, that honestly thinks that requiring ID at a voting booth is a disenfranchising tactic.

            I told him that state-issued IDs are free. But he says some poor people don't have the money it would take to get to the DMV to get a free ID. And he said that some people don't have the required proof of citizenship to get the ID in the first place. In my small head, anyone eager to vote should be willing to satisfy the legal requirements for voting.

            Then he said that people with warrants or a criminal past may feel intimidated by walking into a government office to get an ID or to vote. I am all for removing intimidation tactics, but if you're going to vote in an election... for government officials... then the fact you have reason keep out of government facilities means you probably should not be participating in the first place.

            In the end, his argument is that allowing ANYONE to walk in and vote is better than giving a legal citizen a reason to not vote.
            When the government pays, the government controls.

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            • #7
              The SCOTUS fucked this one up too.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by 46Tbird View Post
                I work with a guy, a self-described liberal guy, that honestly thinks that requiring ID at a voting booth is a disenfranchising tactic.

                I told him that state-issued IDs are free. But he says some poor people don't have the money it would take to get to the DMV to get a free ID. And he said that some people don't have the required proof of citizenship to get the ID in the first place. In my small head, anyone eager to vote should be willing to satisfy the legal requirements for voting.

                Then he said that people with warrants or a criminal past may feel intimidated by walking into a government office to get an ID or to vote. I am all for removing intimidation tactics, but if you're going to vote in an election... for government officials... then the fact you have reason keep out of government facilities means you probably should not be participating in the first place.

                In the end, his argument is that allowing ANYONE to walk in and vote is better than giving a legal citizen a reason to not vote.
                Just to skid this off into the ditch, by that liberal's logic I don't need a background check or any other documentation to purchase weapons. 2nd ammendment clearly states "shall not be infringed" I guess bearing them and purchaseing them are two different things.

                Back to the original post.
                Secede, us n Az.
                Rich

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 46Tbird View Post
                  I work with a guy, a self-described liberal guy, that honestly thinks that requiring ID at a voting booth is a disenfranchising tactic.

                  I told him that state-issued IDs are free. But he says some poor people don't have the money it would take to get to the DMV to get a free ID. And he said that some people don't have the required proof of citizenship to get the ID in the first place. In my small head, anyone eager to vote should be willing to satisfy the legal requirements for voting.

                  Then he said that people with warrants or a criminal past may feel intimidated by walking into a government office to get an ID or to vote. I am all for removing intimidation tactics, but if you're going to vote in an election... for government officials... then the fact you have reason keep out of government facilities means you probably should not be participating in the first place.

                  In the end, his argument is that allowing ANYONE to walk in and vote is better than giving a legal citizen a reason to not vote.

                  If they don't have the money to get to the DMV, how are they going to get to the voting booth?

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                  • #10
                    They fucked this decision up.
                    "It's another burrito, it's a cold Lone Star in my hand!"

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by dee View Post
                      They fucked this decision up.
                      More than that. They're impeding on states' rights' to hold an election. They've overstepped their bounds...again.

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                      • #12
                        So I dont need to prove who I am to vote, but the goddamn bank can refuse to give me my money if I dont have two forms of ID?
                        "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Baron View Post
                          So I dont need to prove who I am to vote, but the goddamn bank can refuse to give me my money if I dont have two forms of ID?
                          You can't do shit else without an ID except vote in people who can fuck your world up for you. Makes sense.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by 46Tbird View Post
                            I work with a guy, a self-described liberal guy, that honestly thinks that requiring ID at a voting booth is a disenfranchising tactic.

                            I told him that state-issued IDs are free. But he says some poor people don't have the money it would take to get to the DMV to get a free ID. And he said that some people don't have the required proof of citizenship to get the ID in the first place. In my small head, anyone eager to vote should be willing to satisfy the legal requirements for voting.

                            Then he said that people with warrants or a criminal past may feel intimidated by walking into a government office to get an ID or to vote. I am all for removing intimidation tactics, but if you're going to vote in an election... for government officials... then the fact you have reason keep out of government facilities means you probably should not be participating in the first place.

                            In the end, his argument is that allowing ANYONE to walk in and vote is better than giving a legal citizen a reason to not vote.
                            Originally posted by talisman View Post
                            If they don't have the money to get to the DMV, how are they going to get to the voting booth?
                            When did it start costing money to walk?
                            .

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                            • #15
                              Thanks a lot for the Title. My Blood pressure to shot up FML.
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