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  • Indiana legalizes use of deadly force against police who enter without a warrant.

    Hopefully this catches on in other states.

    Hold onto your holsters, folks: shooting a cop dead is now legal in the state of Indiana.


    Hold onto your holsters, folks: shooting a cop dead is now legal in the state of Indiana.

    Governor Mitch Daniels, a Republican, has authorized changes to a 2006 legislation that legalizes the use of deadly force on a public servant — including an officer of the law — in cases of “unlawful intrusion.” Proponents of both the Second and Fourth Amendments — those that allow for the ownership of firearms and the security against unlawful searches, respectively — are celebrating the update by saying it ensures that residents are protected from authorities that abuse the powers of the badge.

    Others, however, fear that the alleged threat of a police state emergence will be replaced by an all-out warzone in Indiana.

    Under the latest changes of the so-called Castle Doctrine, state lawmakers agree “people have a right to defend themselves and third parties from physical harm and crime.” Rather than excluding officers of the law, however, any public servant is now subject to be met with deadly force if they unlawfully enter private property without clear justification.

    “In enacting this section, the general assembly finds and declares that it is the policy of this state to recognize the unique character of a citizen's home and to ensure that a citizen feels secure in his or her own home against unlawful intrusion by another individual or a public servant,” reads the legislation.

    Although critics have been quick to condemn the law for opening the door for assaults on police officers, supporters say that it is necessary to implement the ideals brought by America’s forefathers. Especially, argue some, since the Indiana Supreme Court almost eliminated the Fourth Amendment entirely last year. During the 2011 case of Barnes v. State of Indiana, the court ruled that a man who assaulted an officer dispatched to his house had broken the law before there was “no right to reasonably resist unlawful entry by police officers.” In turn, the National Rifle Association lobbied for an amendment to the Castle Doctrine to ensure that residents were protected from officers that abuse the law to grant themselves entry into private space.

    “There are bad legislators,” the law’s author, State Senator R. Michael Young (R) tells Bloomberg News. “There are bad clergy, bad doctors, bad teachers, and it’s these officers that we’re concerned about that when they act outside their scope and duty that the individual ought to have a right to protect themselves.”

    Governor Daniels agrees with the senator in a statement offered through his office, and notes that the law is only being established to cover rare incidents of police abuse that can escape the system without reprimand for officers or other persons that break the law to gain entry.

    “In the real world, there will almost never be a situation in which these extremely narrow conditions are met,” Daniels says. “This law is not an invitation to use violence or force against law enforcement officers.”

    Officers in Indiana aren’t necessarily on the same page, though. “If I pull over a car and I walk up to it and the guy shoots me, he’s going to say, ‘Well, he was trying to illegally enter my property,’” Sergeant Joseph Hubbard tells Bloomberg. “Somebody is going get away with killing a cop because of this law.”

    “It’s just a recipe for disaster,” Indiana State Fraternal Order of Police President Tim Downs adds. “It just puts a bounty on our heads.”

    Love it!

  • #2
    i am all for this. come knock on my door all you want.. you come inside and we play by my rules

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    • #3
      Originally posted by grove rat View Post
      i am all for this. come knock on my door all you want.. you come inside and we play by my rules
      I'm not 100% FTP either, but this is the kind of shit we need to protect ourselves against some of the utter bullshit you hear/read about on the news. I know a certain Farmers Branch cop that can go fuck himself in the ass though.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by roliath View Post
        Officers in Indiana aren’t necessarily on the same page, though. “If I pull over a car and I walk up to it and the guy shoots me, he’s going to say, ‘Well, he was trying to illegally enter my property,’” Sergeant Joseph Hubbard tells Bloomberg. “Somebody is going get away with killing a cop because of this law.”

        “It’s just a recipe for disaster,” Indiana State Fraternal Order of Police President Tim Downs adds. “It just puts a bounty on our heads.”
        Exactly my thoughts as well from a civilian POV

        Both sides can have the same argument, what puts one groups rights over another group?
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        • #5
          Well, this would help when the cops break down the door to the wrong house, dont announce themselves properly and end up shot by a homeowner that doesnt have any reason for a cop to bust down their door and come in unnanounced. That may not happen often enough to have a law to provide a legal 'out' for, but they damned sure made it illegal to shoot them when they were wrong, and that isnt right.
          "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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          • #6
            If they don't want to get shot, they should

            A) Make sure they have the right address
            B) Make sure they have a warrant
            C) Are LEGALLY trying to enter your home.

            I'm pretty sure if my buddies and I kick in a cop's door he's going to want to defend himself from me, so it works both ways
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            • #7
              Good. This should be nationwide. I'd imagine the number of wrong address search warrants being executed in that state is about to plummet.

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              • #8
                Good deal. Maybe this will get rid of some dirty cops and politicians up there.

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                • #9
                  Love it. No government or organization should have a monopoly on force.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Gtracer View Post
                    Exactly my thoughts as well from a civilian POV

                    Both sides can have the same argument, what puts one groups rights over another group?
                    What argument are you alluding to? The rights of private citizens not being subjectbto illegal search and seizure?

                    If you are entering my home without my permission, you best be ready to recieive some lead at a high rate of speed, law enforcement or not.
                    Rich

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                    • #11
                      This is the first I've heard of it but the articles I just read are from 6-11-13. Figured we would have heard about this sooner.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Txstang1 View Post
                        This is the first I've heard of it but the articles I just read are from 6-11-13. Figured we would have heard about this sooner.
                        You have access to articles from next Tuesday?! I expect a cut of the lotto winnings to keep quiet about this...
                        Scientists do not coddle ideas. They crash test them. They run them into a brick wall at 60 miles per hour and then examine the pieces.

                        If the idea is sound, the pieces will be that of the wall.

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                        • #13
                          Indiana....FUCK YEAH!!

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                          • #14
                            2012
                            Vortex rear stand $75
                            8.8 410s. $50

                            **SKAGG NASTY**
                            My goal in life is to not arrive at the grave in a well preserved body.
                            but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy shit!!!.. what a ride!"

                            1990 Foxbody GT for that ass
                            11 4 door
                            13 FX2 White 5.0

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Txstang1 View Post
                              2012
                              Does this mean I don't get a cut of the lotto winnings?
                              Scientists do not coddle ideas. They crash test them. They run them into a brick wall at 60 miles per hour and then examine the pieces.

                              If the idea is sound, the pieces will be that of the wall.

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