Detroit mayor wants city employees to live in city

[racrguy]

I don't care what jobs you've had. I know you haven't had any mid or upper level management positions. That is not an assumption.

Says he doesn't care what jobs I've had, claims knowledge of what jobs I've had. Seems legit.

And yes. Especially in large cities.

I find this hard to believe.

[bcoop]

Says he doesn't care what jobs I've had, claims knowledge of what jobs I've had. Seems legit.



I find this hard to believe.

I don't give two flying fucks what you believe and what you don't. I'm speaking from first hand experience. What experience are you speaking from? Exactly.


Tell me, Sean. Why do you live in a Podunk town making squat when you've held so many upper management and executive positions?

[Forever_frost]

I don't see the point in fireing people because they dont live in a certain neighborhood or city. How about we focus on hiring people that show up to work on time and do their job, regardless of where tbeh live. People commute all the time if they choose. By some of your arguments anuone living in the country would be fired if they didn't sell out and move the city. The government mandating what city or neighborhood you live in sounds an aweful lot like big government.

Not at all. It's like the military saying if you're below x rank, you're living in barracks. You want the job? You want to work for the city? You live in the city.

[The King]

If I needed a public-service job and that job required me to live within the City of Detroit, I would have no problems with doing so.

[Chas_svo]

Many cities already require that the Mayor and council members live in the city limits...

I can think of at least one example where a mayor and a separate council member were removed and replaced because they moved out of the city limits, thinking the rules didn't apply to them.

[Chas_svo]

Many cities already require that the Mayor and council members live in the city limits...

I can think of at least one example where a mayor and a separate council member were removed and replaced because they moved out of the city limits, thinking the rules didn't apply to them.

[racrguy]

I don't give two flying fucks what you believe and what you don't. I'm speaking from first hand experience. What experience are you speaking from? Exactly.


Tell me, Sean. Why do you live in a Podunk town making squat when you've held so many upper management and executive positions?

You said I've never had any mid/upper level management experience, I'm just trying to figure out how you would know that. Yale doesn't even know all the jobs I've had so the grape-vine effect doesn't come into play here.

Why do I live in a Podunk town? Because I choose to. It may be difficult for you to understand, but some people do things that they want to do, not because they're forced to. Why do you choose to live in the metroplex and make squat?

[lowthreeohz]

No different than companies who refuse to higher someone

retard.

[bcoop]

You said I've never had any mid/upper level management experience, I'm just trying to figure out how you would know that. Yale doesn't even know all the jobs I've had so the grape-vine effect doesn't come into play here.

Don't you work in a parts store or something now? If you were upper management material, you wouldn't be in that position. You made a decent living for what, 3 months while you worked in the oil field? Prior to that you made next to nothing. No grapevine effect, this is what I have gathered from your posts over the years. While I won't say that it never happens, but typically people don't go from a 6 figure management salary to an hourly employee. Stop being a fucking idiot and arguing bullshit, Sean. If you feel the need to argue just to argue, go argue with your hand. You have never worked an upper level management or Executive position. Prove me wrong.

Why do I live in a Podunk town? Because I choose to.

Perhaps. I'm betting it probably has more to do with not being able to hold a decent job, because you have problems with authority, and you will argue with a fucking tree stump because you are insecure, and constantly feel the need to attempt to prove that you are right, no matter how petty the situation is. But sure, whatever you say.

Why do you choose to live in the metroplex and make squat?

lol

[LANTIRN]

Ok, I guess the entire business world is "bullshit." The company I work for has fired people that would not relocate. It happens all the time. Businesses move. Departments move. Offices close. If you want to keep your job, you move. If you don't, you join the ranks of the unemployed. It is pretty simple.


Don't be so dense.

You aren't reading what I am saying. This is not a transfer to another office in another state or a city several hundred miles away. These are employees that have worked in Detroit for X number of years; the city never had a problem with where they lived before, and living inside of the city was not a requirement when they were first hired. To suddenly change the requirements of employment and fire them because they live somewhere else is bullshit.

And this situation doesn't even compare to closing down an office in a city; the company usually gives the employee a choice at that point (Hey, we are closing but you still have a job if you want to move, your call). Not, "we realized after 5 years you live a bad address so you are fired if you don't sell your house". And being forced to sell your house and move is not the same as accepting a transfer in another city.

And this is completely different from the military; they explain to you before you sign the contract that it is a requirement of the job to either live on base in the barracks, or live within a certain mile radius of the base. It is not something that is a surprise; it was a condition of employment from the very beginning; not something that someone randomly made up.

[racrguy]

Don't you work in a parts store or something now? If you were upper management material, you wouldn't be in that position. You made a decent living for what, 3 months while you worked in the oil field? Prior to that you made next to nothing. No grapevine effect, this is what I have gathered from your posts over the years. While I won't say that it never happens, but typically people don't go from a 6 figure management salary to an hourly employee. Stop being a fucking idiot and arguing bullshit, Sean. If you feel the need to argue just to argue, go argue with your hand. You have never worked an upper level management or Executive position. Prove me wrong.



Perhaps. I'm betting it probably has more to do with not being able to hold a decent job, because you have problems with authority, and you will argue with a fucking tree stump because you are insecure, and constantly feel the need to attempt to prove that you are right, no matter how petty the situation is. But sure, whatever you say.




lol

So, you pretty much know nothing about me aside from what I post here on the boards and you think you're qualified enough to know that I'm insecure and have authority issues. Aight then. If that's what blows your skirt up.

For the record, I have never been fired from a job.

You think you're important because you make somewhere around 100k a year (an assumption, but I may be giving you the benifit of the doubt) and you pal around with the people that own your company. In the grand scheme of things, you lead just as mediocre as mine is, but only one of us is deluded enough not to realize it.

[46Tbird]

You aren't reading what I am saying. This is not a transfer to another office in another state or a city several hundred miles away. These are employees that have worked in Detroit for X number of years; the city never had a problem with where they lived before, and living inside of the city was not a requirement when they were first hired. To suddenly change the requirements of employment and fire them because they live somewhere else is bullshit.

And this situation doesn't even compare to closing down an office in a city; the company usually gives the employee a choice at that point (Hey, we are closing but you still have a job if you want to move, your call). Not, "we realized after 5 years you live a bad address so you are fired if you don't sell your house". And being forced to sell your house and move is not the same as accepting a transfer in another city.

And this is completely different from the military; they explain to you before you sign the contract that it is a requirement of the job to either live on base in the barracks, or live within a certain mile radius of the base. It is not something that is a surprise; it was a condition of employment from the very beginning; not something that someone randomly made up.

They could grandfather in any current employees and apply the rules to new hires.

[bcoop]

You aren't reading what I am saying. This is not a transfer to another office in another state or a city several hundred miles away. These are employees that have worked in Detroit for X number of years; the city never had a problem with where they lived before, and living inside of the city was not a requirement when they were first hired. To suddenly change the requirements of employment and fire them because they live somewhere else is bullshit.

And this situation doesn't even compare to closing down an office in a city; the company usually gives the employee a choice at that point (Hey, we are closing but you still have a job if you want to move, your call). Not, "we realized after 5 years you live a bad address so you are fired if you don't sell your house".

Yeah, it really does.

I'm not up on employment laws in Michigan, but in Texas, you can be fired for any reason. I can fire you if I don't like the socks you wear. So, it's not really bullshit in the grand scheme of things. I think a Municipality is completely within their rights of what they require from employees. And if they want to make that change, and aren't violating any labor laws, so be it. If the employees don't like it, they can find another job. It's really simple. They aren't discriminating on race, age, religion, or sex, so more power to them.

[Sean88gt]

Pressure from largely white suburbs to send the Detroit people back.

[bcoop]

So, you pretty much know nothing about me aside from what I post here on the boards

I don't care to know anything about you, including what you've posted on the board.

and you think you're qualified enough to know that I'm insecure and have authority issues.

My views of you have come directly from your actions, so yes.

You think you're important

False

and you pal around with the people that own your company.

Also false. I don't hang out with the Owners of my company outside of work, and work functions. I'm also involved in the succession plan and purchase of this company, so I'm not just another employee.

In the grand scheme of things, you lead just as mediocre as mine is, but only one of us is deluded enough not to realize it.

I never said my life wasn't mediocre. My life is everything I want in to be. I'm also not delusional. I know exactly where I stand. I never claimed to be more important than you. I simply said that you have never had a upper level management or Executive position, and told you to prove me wrong. I'm still waiting on you to do that, since you completely ignored it. You called bullshit on my claims, but you've never been in a position to even know how it works. So, again. Prove me wrong.