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    The House on Monday overwhelmingly voted for the latest version of the Stolen Valor Act, a law that will make it a crime to don the medals and ribbons that soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen are awarded for combat actions.
    The legislation passed 309 to three.
    A 2005 version of the law was struck down by the Supreme Court last June, when it ruled that lying about military heroics was constitutionally protected speech unless there was intent to gain some benefit or something of value by fraud.
    The House version, like one passed in the Senate in December, includes an “intent to defraud” provision that advocates believe will permit the law to stand up against any court challenge.
    “This law is long overdue,” Rep. Paul Cook, R-Calif., said in a statement released immediately after the vote. Cook is a retired Marine Corps colonel who served in Vietnam, where he received two Purple Hearts and the Bronze Star Medal for valor. “When people make false claims of military rank and heroism, it does a tremendous disservice not only to our vets, but to the public.”
    The 2005 version of the law was broad, making it a crime to make any false statements claiming military awards and decorations.
    A California man, Xavier Alvarez, was convicted under that law for claiming to be a Medal of Honor recipient. He was ordered to pay a $5,000 fine but appealed the case up to the Supreme Court, which struck it down.
    The latest Stolen Valor Act was introduced into the House by Rep. Joe Heck, R-Nev., who called it “fitting” for the House to pass the bill only days ahead of Memorial Day.
    “The awards, and the men and women who have earned them, in some cases posthumously, are worthy of the utmost respect and sanctity,” he said in a statement. “Benefitting from lying about receiving one of these awards is an affront to all who have worn the uniform and especially to those who made the ultimate sacrifice for our country."
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    The House on Monday overwhelmingly voted for the latest version of the Stolen Valor Act, a law that will make it a crime to don the medals and ribbons that soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen are awarded for combat actions. The legislation passed 309 to three. A 2005 version of the law was struck down by the Supreme Court last June, when it ruled that lying about military heroics was constitutionally protected speech unless there was intent to gain some benefit or something of value by fraud.
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    Yet more useless feel good legislation, as its already against the law to commit or attempt to commit fraud...

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    • #3
      Same reason there are special classes for hate crimes and affirmative action.
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      • #4
        House did it what about the senate? Last law was struck down under "free speech"

        It is fraud but most people don't know any better and they take people at face value. Being a fraud award recipient or a fraud vet is worse because those people are out for something. Look at the recent President of the Korean War Vets. He wore a bunch of shit he didn't earn (nor did he even serve in Korea) Went to political functions got photo ops with big wigs and everything. When called on it he said he was wearing the medals in is brothers honor. It is enough to have served, yet people can't help but embellish to make themselves something they wished they were or wanted to be.

        http://thisainthell.us/blog/. Is an awesome site to read. They out frauds everyday.
        Last edited by Couver; 05-22-2013, 07:20 PM.

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        • #5
          Who were the 3 "nay"s?
          "It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Couver View Post
            House did it what about the senate? Last law was struck down under "free speech"

            It is fraud but most people don't know any better and they take people at face value. Being a fraud award recipient or a fraud vet is worse because those people are out for something. Look at the recent President of the Korean War Vets. He wore a bunch of shit he didn't earn. Went to political functions got photo ops with big wigs and everything. When called on it he said he was wearing the medals in is brothers honor. It is enough to have served, yet people can't help but embellish to make themselves something they wished they were or wanted to be.

            http://thisainthell.us/blog/. Is an awesome site to read. They out frauds everyday.
            It's more refined about what is illegal instead of just statements.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
              It's more refined about what is illegal instead of just statements.
              I am for it in a huge way don't get me wrong. Maybe it will cut down on some of the fraud. And get more help to those who need it.

              ** edit and my comment that it is enough to have served holds true for the most part. There are many more who gave a whole lot more.

              THANK YOU Frost for going out beyond the wire and doing what you did...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by racrguy View Post
                Yet more useless feel good legislation, as its already against the law to commit or attempt to commit fraud...
                Whenever you're ready to don a Banditos vest and hit up a biker bar, let me know
                http://www.truthcontest.com/entries/...iversal-truth/

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Couver View Post
                  I am for it in a huge way don't get me wrong. Maybe it will cut down on some of the fraud. And get more help to those who need it.

                  ** edit and my comment that it is enough to have served holds true for the most part. There are many more who gave a whole lot more.

                  THANK YOU Frost for going out beyond the wire and doing what you did...
                  Hey, chicks dig scars and blue cords. No thanks needed
                  I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Cooter View Post
                    Whenever you're ready to don a Banditos vest and hit up a biker bar, let me know
                    Also a good point.
                    I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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                    • #11
                      Tl;dr

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by racrguy View Post
                        Yet more useless feel good legislation, as its already against the law to commit or attempt to commit fraud...
                        Did you serve in any military branch?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by helosailor View Post
                          Who were the 3 "nay"s?
                          NayNay maybe?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SS Junk View Post
                            Did you serve in any military branch?
                            This was established a while back he "almost" served. But by God he is entitled to his opinions, just ask him.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DallasSleeper View Post
                              But by God he is entitled to his opinions.
                              EVERYONE is entitled to their opinions. You military guys crack me the fuck up.
                              Originally posted by BradM
                              But, just like condoms and women's rights, I don't believe in them.
                              Originally posted by Leah
                              In other news: Brent's meat melts in your mouth.

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