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    Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) supports the principle that online retailers should have to pay state sales taxes.

    "I think the concept is right," Ryan, the chairman of the House Budget Committee, said at a town hall meeting earlier this week, according to the Wisconsin Reporter.

    In an emailed statement to The Hill, Ryan clarified that he does not support the Senate's legislation on the issue.

    "It's got to be done the right way. I think the legitimate concern is can it be used to do other forms of taxation or retroactive taxation? You have got to make sure it doesn't do that. I don't think the Senate bill is written in a tight enough way to do that," Ryan said.

    He added that it's unfair for a local brick-and-mortar retailer to have to collect sales taxes when online competitors are exempt.

    "So I'd like to think there's a way to address this inequity without giving the government power to expand taxing authority beyond that intent. You've got to do it the right way," Ryan said.

    Under current law, states can only collect sales taxes from retailers that have a physical presence in their state. People who order items online from another state are supposed to declare the purchases on their tax forms, but few do.

    The Senate's bill, the Marketplace Fairness Act, would empower states to tax out-of-state online retailers, but would exempt small businesses that earn less than $1 million annually. The Senate is expected to vote on the bill next week.

    The proposal has the support of retail lobbying groups and a host of governors, including Republicans Chris Christie of New Jersey, Rick Snyder of Michigan and Bob McDonnell of Virginia. Passage of the bill could bring billions of dollars in new revenue to state governments.

    But anti-tax groups such as Heritage Action, Americans for Prosperity and Grover Norquist's Americans for Tax Reform are rallying opposition to the measure, saying it would be complicated to enforce and would stifle online commerce.

    The Senate is expected to approve the sales tax bill next week.

  • #2
    Do increased taxes suck ass? Well, yes. But is it fair to your local retailer that you get a break by ordering out of State? Well, no.
    Originally posted by lincolnboy
    After watching Games of Thrones, makes me glad i was not born in those years.

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    • #3
      It is horseshit, if you order online most of the time you have to pay shipping.

      Just another excuse for the government to take even more out of the economy and for these idiots in Washington, who have created this political class that doles out money to the government tit suckers, to gain even more power.
      Originally posted by racrguy
      What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
      Originally posted by racrguy
      Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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      • #4
        Work hard, pay hard. That seems to be the motto.

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        • #5
          I wouldn't mind it if it was actually paying for my local sales tax. But it won't, even if it was written up explicitly to do so.
          How do we forget ourselves? How do we forget our minds?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Trip McNeely View Post
            Work hard, pay harder. That seems to be the motto.
            Ftfy

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DOHCTR View Post
              Do increased taxes suck ass? Well, yes. But is it fair to your local retailer that you get a break by ordering out of State? Well, no.
              There is no law that prevents your local retailer from selling over the internet.

              If an internet sales tax passes it will give local taxing authorities the power to audit businesses that do not reside in their states. How many time per month do you think Mayor Bloomberg will audit companies in Texas that he doesn't like?
              Magnus, I am your father. You need to ask your mother about a man named Calvin Klein.

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              • #8
                states are broke so more tax is the only solution.

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                • #9
                  I remember a term for this...what was it.....taxation without representation.

                  No, states are broke so they should stop funding healthcare and education for fucking criminal aliens
                  I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by QIK46 View Post
                    states are broke so more tax is the only solution.
                    An argument can be made that one of the reasons they are broke is due to reduced sales tax receipts. Part of that is the economy but another part of that is business lost to online retailers.

                    Originally posted by svo855 View Post
                    There is no law that prevents your local retailer from selling over the internet.

                    If an internet sales tax passes it will give local taxing authorities the power to audit businesses that do not reside in their states. How many time per month do you think Mayor Bloomberg will audit companies in Texas that he doesn't like?
                    Does the bill give local governments that authority? What I've read this gives states the ability to tax. Not sure what the bill says about auditing authority since I haven't read it..


                    I understand that this isn't a simple thing, that is why Ryan is wise to be careful when considering it. Auditing is one area that should be carefully considered.

                    I am a bit concerned about the $1million loophole. I can just imagine someone finding ways to take advantage of that.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sgt Beavis View Post

                      Does the bill give local governments that authority? What I've read this gives states the ability to tax. Not sure what the bill says about auditing authority since I haven't read it..
                      The bill doesn't have to give them that authority; they will simply start doing it the same way they audit wealthy people who haven't lived in New York for 20+ years.
                      Magnus, I am your father. You need to ask your mother about a man named Calvin Klein.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by svo855 View Post
                        The bill doesn't have to give them that authority; they will simply start doing it the same way they audit wealthy people who haven't lived in New York for 20+ years.
                        Sorry, I don't follow man. I haven't lived in New York in ... ever..

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by svo855 View Post
                          There is no law that prevents your local retailer from selling over the internet.
                          If you buy something over the Internet from a retailer in your state, you still have to pay sales tax.
                          Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                          I remember a term for this...what was it.....taxation without representation.
                          So we should start electing representatives to other states!
                          Originally posted by Broncojohnny
                          HOORAY ME and FUCK YOU!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Nash B. View Post
                            If you buy something over the Internet from a retailer in your state, you still have to pay sales tax.So we should start electing representatives to other states!
                            I should have said that there is nothing to prevent your local brick and mortar store from selling across state lines.
                            Magnus, I am your father. You need to ask your mother about a man named Calvin Klein.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by svo855 View Post
                              The bill doesn't have to give them that authority; they will simply start doing it the same way they audit wealthy people who haven't lived in New York for 20+ years.
                              Example?
                              ZOMBIE REAGAN FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!! heh

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