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Impossible.Originally posted by lincolnboy -
quran 33:50 lawful to you are your wives and your slave girls allah has given you as booty. quran 4:24 forbidden to you are wedded wives of other people except those who have fallen in your hands as prisoners of war. quran 23:5-6 who restrain their carnal desires except with their wives and slave girls, for these are lawful to them. they are to many like this to list.
Abu Dawud (2150) - "The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur’anic verse: (Qur'an 4:24) 'And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess.'"I wear a Fez. Fez-es are coolComment
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irrelevantOriginally posted by Forever_frost View Post"If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry FordComment
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Fucked up ancient texts game? Fucked up ancient texts game.
"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. She must be quiet." (1 Timothy 2:12)
"Go, now, attack Amalek, and deal with him and all that he has under the ban. Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses." (1 Samuel 15:3)
"You shall not let a sorceress live." (Exodus 22:18)
"Happy those who seize your children and smash them against a rock." (Psalm 137:9)
"When the men would not listen to his host, the husband seized his concubine and thrust her outside to them. They had relations with her and abused her all night until the following dawn, when they let her go. Then at daybreak the woman came and collapsed at the entrance of the house in which her husband was a guest, where she lay until the morning. When her husband rose that day and opened the door of the house to start out again on his journey, there lay the woman, his concubine, at the entrance of the house with her hands on the threshold. He said to her, 'Come, let us go'; but there was no answer. So the man placed her on an ass and started out again for home." (Judges 19:25-28)
"And the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another. Males did shameful things with males and thus received in their own persons the due penalty for their perversity." (Romans 1:27)
"Jephthah made a vow to the Lord. 'If you deliver the Ammonites into my power,' he said, 'whoever comes out of the doors of my house to meet me when I return in triumph from the Ammonites shall belong to the Lord. I shall offer him up as a holocaust.' ... When Jephthah returned to his house in Mizpah, it was his daughter who came forth, playing the tambourines and dancing. She was an only child: he had neither son nor daughter besides her. When he saw her, he rent his garments and said, 'Alas, daughter, you have struck me down and brought calamity upon me. For I have made a vow to the Lord and I cannot retract'." (Judges 11:30-1, 34-5)
"Then God said: 'Take your son Isaac, your only one, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah. There you shall offer him up as a holocaust on a height that I will point out to you'."(Genesis 22:2)
"Wives should be subordinate to their husbands as to the Lord." (Ephesians 5:22)
"Slaves, be subject to your masters with all reverence, not only to those who are good and equitable but also to those who are perverse." (1 Peter 2:18)Originally posted by lincolnboyComment
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Well, thank God there's no fucked up shit in the bible.Originally posted by davbrucasComment
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Yet Christ first appeared to a woman and not a man. She is to be submissive to her husband as the church submits to Christ. Loved and cherished.
How to wage war. I actually agree with that as it makes war far easier.
Old testament, Christians are bound by grace under the New Testament for all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God.
Psalm 137
1 By the rivers of Babylon we sat and wept
when we remembered Zion.
2 There on the poplars
we hung our harps,
3 for there our captors asked us for songs,
our tormentors demanded songs of joy;
they said, “Sing us one of the songs of Zion!”
4 How can we sing the songs of the Lord
while in a foreign land?
5 If I forget you, Jerusalem,
may my right hand forget its skill.
6 May my tongue cling to the roof of my mouth
if I do not remember you,
if I do not consider Jerusalem
my highest joy.
7 Remember, Lord, what the Edomites did
on the day Jerusalem fell.
“Tear it down,” they cried,
“tear it down to its foundations!”
8 Daughter Babylon, doomed to destruction,
happy is the one who repays you
according to what you have done to us.
9 Happy is the one who seizes your infants
and dashes them against the rocks.
In that society it was better for you or your spouse to be harmed than a guest in your home. If memory serves, she was cut up and sent to the houses of Israel and the ones who killed her were destroyed and their city dismantled.
Man made a deal with God and fulfilled his end of it.
God provided a ram to keep Isaac safe.
You're really not good at actually putting the rest of the verse are you Dohctr?
Now, back to what I was saying:
Rape is virtually impossible to prove under strict Islamic law (Sharia). If the man claims that the act was consensual sex, there is very little that the woman can do to refute this. Islam places the burden of avoiding sexual encounters of any sort on the woman.
A recent fatwa from a mainstream Islamic site echoes this rule and even chides a victim of incest for complaining when she has no “evidence”:
However, it is not permissible to accuse the father of rape without evidence. Indeed, the Sharee’ah put some special conditions for proving Zina (fornication or adultery) that are not required in case of other crimes. The crime of Zina is not confirmed except if the fornicator admits it, or with the testimony of four trustworthy men, while the testimony of women is not accepted.
Hence, the statement of this girl or the statement of her mother in itself does not Islamically prove anything against the father, especially that the latter denies it.
Therefore, if this daughter has no evidence to prove that her accusations are true, she should not have claimed that she was raped by her father and she should not have taken him to the court. (IslamWeb.net, Image)
Since it is incredibly unlikely that a child molester will violate his victim in front of “four trustworthy men”, Islamic law amounts to a free pass for sexual predators.
Islamic law rejects forensic evidence (such as DNA) in favor of testimony. An interesting situation thus sometimes develops in cases where a victim alleges rape and the man denies that sex even took place. In the absence of four male witnesses, rape cannot be proven. The woman’s testimony then becomes a “confession” of adultery. She can be stoned, even though the male is unpunished, since he never “confessed” to a sexual act!
Some clerics blame rape on the woman. Australian Sheik Feiz recently said a rape victim ”has no one to blame but herself. She displayed her beauty to the entire world… to tease man and appeal to his carnal nature.”I wear a Fez. Fez-es are coolComment
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So Christianity is better than Islam? That's what this thread is about now? Gotta be fucking shitting me. Frost, you fell into your own fucking "trap." Jesus.Comment
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The bus driver was Pakistani, Pakistan is 95-98% Muslim... It is a safe bet to assume that the bus driver is a MuslimComment
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The Frost Method for Arguing:
1. Put forth logical fallacy.
2. No less than three people point out said fallacy.
3. Change subject as quickly as possible.
4. Stop posting, let thread fade into obscurity.Originally posted by lincolnboyComment
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Saves.Originally posted by talisman View Post
At least Frost is doing all of the heavy lifting in this thread.
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Doesn't matter, the core of the argument is that is that nowhere in the article did it say the man's religion. Frost assumed the man was a Muslim and posted as such (of course slandering a rapist doesn't matter much to me) and got called out.Originally posted by DallasSleeper View PostOriginally posted by lincolnboyComment
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We can all thank the dude who introduced the copied and pasted OT quotes for that.Originally posted by talisman View PostComment
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This. Texas is 93.6% Christian.Originally posted by Slowhand View Post
Therefore Talisman is a Christian because the majority of the state is. Oh wait...Originally posted by lincolnboyComment
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