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    On April 17, New Jersey Senator Frank Lautenberg issued a statement to the public that he intends to propose a bill or amendment to regulate black powder, and other forms of explosive components, in the wake of the Boston Marathon Massacre. The bill would demand full Federal background checks of anyone seeking to purchase the minor explosive, similar to recent attempts by Congress to require full background checks on the sale of firearms.

    In the wake of the deadly bombing attacks in Boston, U.S. Senator Frank R. Lautenberg (D-NJ) today announced that he will reintroduce legislation he has proposed in a prior Congress to require that sales of explosive powder be subject to a background check. He will also file the legislation as an amendment to the gun violence prevention bill currently on the Senate floor. - Lautenberg.Senate.com

    Early indications by analysts and observers of the horrific Boston Marathon bombings show that a black powder explosive may have been the primary element in the bombs that killed three people, and injured hundreds of others. The use of black powder explosives are considered small in potency when compared to today's high tech explosives, and their use has been found to date as far back as 220 BC.

    Of the $27.8 Billion spent each year on firearms, ammunition, clothing, reloading equipment, optics, and accessories by the American public, only about 7-8% of all gun owners reload their own ammunition on a regular basis. This means that only a relatively small amount of people purchase black powder explosives each year, and in comparison to other flammable, explosive, and dangerous household products such as fertilizer and gasoline, the singling out of black powder for stricter regulation bears little statistical evidence that its use in criminal activity is widespread.

    Politicians are well known for using tragic events for their own political gain, as seen recently by the addition of children as props during speeches and debates over gun control. However, the real issue is not the tool or elements used in the orchestration of a crime, but the person behind that use that should be the focus of any criminal indictment, or legislative regulation. And even as no suspect, nor full analysis of the bombing has taken place since the bombing, Senator Frank Lautenberg is choosing to propose legislation which would regulate black powder, and will potentially hurt a retail product that is part of the $67.8 Billion economic impact that hunting and firearm ownership adds to the nation's annual GDP.

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  • #2
    I was wondering when they'd start trying to nail core components to guns. Ya know...this sort of thing or otherwise.
    Originally posted by MR EDD
    U defend him who use's racial slurs like hes drinking water.

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    • #3
      Pretty sure this would be uncontitutional.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by sc281 View Post
        Pretty sure this would be uncontitutional.
        wrong . the constitution has amendments that allow the regulation and taxation of a considerable number of things.
        Up until recently that was WELL UNDERSTOOD to not mean HEALTHCARE.

        but some fucktards would like you believe that healthcare for the masses is a 'tax'

        so stop being so dismissive and learn a fucking thing or two about the constitution maybe?

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        • #5
          Modern rifles, handguns, and shotguns use smokeless powder, not black powder, anyways.
          Originally posted by Broncojohnny
          HOORAY ME and FUCK YOU!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by futant View Post
            wrong . the constitution has amendments that allow the regulation and taxation of a considerable number of things.
            Up until recently that was WELL UNDERSTOOD to not mean HEALTHCARE.

            but some fucktards would like you believe that healthcare for the masses is a 'tax'

            so stop being so dismissive and learn a fucking thing or two about the constitution maybe?
            And you can go fvck yourself. Do some research on your own before mouthing off like a child.

            My reasoning is the Heller ruling , which explicitly ruled out laws that made a weapon defacto impossible to use for self defense (triggerlocks, reguirements for long guns to be disassembled, etc)

            Onerous regulation on the propellant the cartridge uses would effectively make the weapon use extremely difficult to impossible, thereby putting it under the Heller ruling.

            Care to learn me some more about the Constitution?
            Last edited by sc281; 04-18-2013, 03:38 PM.

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            • #7
              It's all bullshit and it's not going to go anywhere... It's just the zealots throwing shit up against the wall and seeing what might stick.

              Anyway, I'm sure the next bill will require background checks for pressure cookers....

              I've come to the conclusion that I have no respect left for about half of the American electorate....

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Nash B. View Post
                Modern rifles, handguns, and shotguns use smokeless powder, not black powder, anyways.
                Fair statement, but I'm sure it'll all be covered if they try to screw us on it.
                Originally posted by MR EDD
                U defend him who use's racial slurs like hes drinking water.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Nash B. View Post
                  Modern rifles, handguns, and shotguns use smokeless powder, not black powder, anyways.
                  Shhhhhhhhhhh!ut the fuck up!! Let the ban the wrong shit. lol

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                  • #10
                    well its the NRAs fault anyways.....do people actually watch this garbage, I mean other than too laugh at it?



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                    its still "We the people"...right?

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                    • #11
                      see what is happening folks? if this worked everytime a drunk driver killed someone we would no longer have alcohol or cars. eventually what we would have is nothing. people will always find a way to do evil no law can ever prevent it.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Nash B. View Post
                        Modern rifles, handguns, and shotguns use smokeless powder, not black powder, anyways.
                        Which isn't near as volatile.
                        "It's another burrito, it's a cold Lone Star in my hand!"

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                        • #13
                          Yeah, and even primers are way more dangerous than smokeless powder. I remember reading in Modern Reloading about the guy that lost his hand (and possibly more) when the bucket of primers he was carrying detonated.
                          Originally posted by Broncojohnny
                          HOORAY ME and FUCK YOU!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Nash B. View Post
                            Yeah, and even primers are way more dangerous than smokeless powder. I remember reading in Modern Reloading about the guy that lost his hand (and possibly more) when the bucket of primers he was carrying detonated.
                            I can believe that a good friend of mine set off a cci large rifle primer while using a hand primer and got some nasty burns from it.

                            Watched a show on the history channel where it went through the history of modern firearms and they showed the burning in slow motion. The blackpowder just needed a touch of flame to go off yet the smokeless need a direct flame and was more controlled during the burn process compared to blackpowder.
                            "It's another burrito, it's a cold Lone Star in my hand!"

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                            • #15
                              we need to ban fertilizer and gun powder according to most democraps

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