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  • #46
    Originally posted by bcoop View Post
    Jesus Christ....
    ...
    Originally posted by davbrucas
    I want to like Slow99 since people I know say he's a good guy, but just about everything he posts is condescending and passive aggressive.

    Most people I talk to have nothing but good things to say about you, but you sure come across as a condescending prick. Do you have an inferiority complex you've attempted to overcome through overachievement? Or were you fondled as a child?

    You and slow99 should date. You both have passive aggressiveness down pat.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
      And it's pretty stupid to think I don't expect every day to get shot by a sniper. Ah the fun of being paranoid. You said you wanted to kill me and take what I own. That you declare war on me. Which also means when you try, and fail, I get to put your head on a pike in my yard and seize your assets. No stories involved, anyone who is interested can read it on their own time.

      War is fun. Let's do this.
      So, if I kill you then it's cool with you that I take all your possessions.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by racrguy View Post
        So, if I kill you then it's cool with you that I take all your possessions.
        Kinda how it goes, ain't it? Unless someone stronger comes along (thses days cops mostly) and kills you and keeps it or gives it back to the family.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
          Not for it at all. Land purchased or taken during war is an exception to this. I'm strongly against imminent domain. Also, this is land within the US that was taken by the US against a foreign power. It's similar to saying that because I'm all for Detroit being retaken from Muslim extremists that stone and kill citizens who recognize no authority of the state or federal government that I'm for the same government taking land for the Keystone Pipeline.

          Not even close. War was fought, indians lost. They're lucky they're still breathing. Spoils of war. Can I make it more clear?
          There were no wars till the US government went back on treaties deciding to nullify the conditions. They also used false treaties then imposed martial law to force relocation. Seems a lot like eminate domain to me.

          Your logic on either take it by force or pay me is very skewed and will bite you in the ass one day.
          "It's another burrito, it's a cold Lone Star in my hand!"

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          • #50
            Originally posted by dee View Post
            There were no wars till the US government went back on treaties deciding to nullify the conditions. They also used false treaties then imposed martial law to force relocation. Seems a lot like eminate domain to me.

            Your logic on either take it by force or pay me is very skewed and will bite you in the ass one day.
            Really?

            "From 1600 or so the process of English settlement was contested by some tribes. The wars, which ranged from the 17th-century Jamestown Massacre of 1622, Pequot War of 1637, Anglo-Powhatan Wars (1610–14, 1622–32, 1644–46), King Philip's War, King William's War. During the 18th-century, there was Queen Anne's War, Tuscarora War, Yamasee War and Father Rale's War, Father Le Loutre's War, French and Indian War, Pontiac's War and Lord Dunmore's War. In many of these wars, Indians fought both for and against the British. In the American Revolution and the War of 1812, Indians also fought for and against the United States, prompting retaliations such as the Cherokee Expedition. The contributions of those who fought for the United States, who were part of the founders of the nation, are often rendered invisible.[7]"



            In the period after the American Revolution, 1783-1812, British merchants and government agents supplied weapons to Indians living in the United States, in the hope that if a war broke out the Indians would fight with them. The British planned to set up an Indian nation in what is now the Ohio-Wisconsin area to block further American expansion.[8] The U.S. protested and finally went to war in the War of 1812. Most Indians, especially those under the leadership of Tecumseh, did ally with the British and were defeated by General William Henry Harrison. The Indians in the South who fought the U.S. were likewise defeated in the Creek War by General Andrew Jackson. Many refugees in the north went to Canada, or in the South to Florida (which was under Spanish control). National policy did not allow for the continued existence of Indian nations inside of yet independent of state government. The Indians had the choice of assimilation, forced relocation to a controlled Indian reservation, or movement west. Some resisted, most notably the Seminoles in a series of wars in Florida. Others were moved to reservations west of the Mississippi River, most famously the Cherokees whose movement is called the "Trail of Tears."
            I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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            • #51
              Originally posted by racrguy View Post
              So, if I kill you then it's cool with you that I take all your possessions.
              Pretty sure I have no say in the matter as I'm dead. And I appreciate you threatening my life and property. Just waiting on you to make good on your threat.
              I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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              • #52
                Originally posted by slow99 View Post
                ...
                Originally posted by BradM
                But, just like condoms and women's rights, I don't believe in them.
                Originally posted by Leah
                In other news: Brent's meat melts in your mouth.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                  Really?

                  "From 1600 or so the process of English settlement was contested by some tribes. The wars, which ranged from the 17th-century Jamestown Massacre of 1622, Pequot War of 1637, Anglo-Powhatan Wars (1610–14, 1622–32, 1644–46), King Philip's War, King William's War. During the 18th-century, there was Queen Anne's War, Tuscarora War, Yamasee War and Father Rale's War, Father Le Loutre's War, French and Indian War, Pontiac's War and Lord Dunmore's War. In many of these wars, Indians fought both for and against the British. In the American Revolution and the War of 1812, Indians also fought for and against the United States, prompting retaliations such as the Cherokee Expedition. The contributions of those who fought for the United States, who were part of the founders of the nation, are often rendered invisible.[7]"



                  In the period after the American Revolution, 1783-1812, British merchants and government agents supplied weapons to Indians living in the United States, in the hope that if a war broke out the Indians would fight with them. The British planned to set up an Indian nation in what is now the Ohio-Wisconsin area to block further American expansion.[8] The U.S. protested and finally went to war in the War of 1812. Most Indians, especially those under the leadership of Tecumseh, did ally with the British and were defeated by General William Henry Harrison. The Indians in the South who fought the U.S. were likewise defeated in the Creek War by General Andrew Jackson. Many refugees in the north went to Canada, or in the South to Florida (which was under Spanish control). National policy did not allow for the continued existence of Indian nations inside of yet independent of state government. The Indians had the choice of assimilation, forced relocation to a controlled Indian reservation, or movement west. Some resisted, most notably the Seminoles in a series of wars in Florida. Others were moved to reservations west of the Mississippi River, most famously the Cherokees whose movement is called the "Trail of Tears."
                  LMAO, Wikipedia is your best source or the only one that skirts around the US wrongs? Everything in the top half is irrelevant to the topic, the bottom is void of all the details in treaties or the lawsuits filed that were dismissed by the supreme court cause they were Indians.
                  "It's another burrito, it's a cold Lone Star in my hand!"

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                  • #54
                    Nope, merely a quick result of google. Would you like to rebut it? You said there were no wars until the federal government breached their contract with the Indians. I provided historical evidence you are wrong. Different tribes fought on the side of the British, fought against the US and so forth. Am I calling the federal government innocent? Hardly. Merely proving you made a stupid statement
                    I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                      Nope, merely a quick result of google. Would you like to rebut it? You said there were no wars until the federal government breached their contract with the Indians. I provided historical evidence you are wrong. Different tribes fought on the side of the British, fought against the US and so forth. Am I calling the federal government innocent? Hardly. Merely proving you made a stupid statement
                      The historic evidence you provided mentioned some tribes did it, not all. Or even most. Just some of them.

                      Stevo
                      Originally posted by SSMAN
                      ...Welcome to the land of "Fuck it". No body cares, and if they do, no body cares.

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                      • #56
                        If there was no wrong doing, then why do they get retributions?

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                        • #57
                          I didn't say no wrong doing was done, I said that happens in war. Why are they getting retributions? Same reason we hand cash to everyone and their dogs. Government likes to get other nations to depend on them and it makes them look good come election time.
                          I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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                          • #58
                            Except this isn't another nation.

                            Look, you and I didn't kill any Indians, we were legally born in the US, we make our contributions to society, etc.

                            Just leave it at that. You'll dig yourself in a hole otherwise.

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                            • #59
                              Indian nations are sovereign nations. You knew that right?
                              I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                                Nope, merely a quick result of google. Would you like to rebut it? You said there were no wars until the federal government breached their contract with the Indians. I provided historical evidence you are wrong. Different tribes fought on the side of the British, fought against the US and so forth. Am I calling the federal government innocent? Hardly. Merely proving you made a stupid statement
                                Things were relatively calm after the first continental congress when they set treaties up with the various tribes. This concept was working very well until the various states started making their own treaties that conflicted the congress treaties, after that it went to hell. Also soon fallowing this the war of 1812 started and the tribes that felt wronged aligned with the brits while others formed an alliance with the US. After the war relations went far south between the white men and the Indians.
                                "It's another burrito, it's a cold Lone Star in my hand!"

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