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  • Originally posted by talisman View Post
    Do you understand what the word coercion means? When you offer someone a "choice" that has one possible positive and one extreme negative, it is not a "choice."
    Call it what you want, but many people clearly aren't dissuaded from the extreme negative outcome.
    Ford
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    • Originally posted by quikag View Post
      Call it what you want, but many people clearly aren't dissuaded from the extreme negative outcome.

      How so, if the actual reckoning according to Denny won't be until Judgement Day, at which point everyone will have a choice?

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      • Originally posted by talisman View Post
        How so, if the actual reckoning according to Denny won't be until Judgement Day, at which point everyone will have a choice?
        Final Judgement in this matter would of course be reserved to Jesus Christ alone, but there is no Biblical evidence I know of to suggest that one can deliberately choose to reject Him in this life and then escape damnation through their own actions or by changing their mind upon Judgement Day.

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        • Originally posted by The King View Post
          Final Judgement in this matter would of course be reserved to Jesus Christ alone, but there is no Biblical evidence I know of to suggest that one can deliberately choose to reject Him in this life and then escape damnation through their own actions or by changing their mind upon Judgement Day.
          Someone didn't understand the original question.

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          • Originally posted by racrguy View Post
            Someone didn't understand the original question.
            My response was to expand on his question, not answer it. Answering it is for quikag and/or Denny to do if they so choose since they were the ones quoted/named. Thanks for stopping by though.

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            • Originally posted by The King View Post
              My response was to expand on his question, not answer it. Answering it is for quikag and/or Denny to do if they so choose since they were the ones quoted/named. Thanks for stopping by though.
              Yet you felt the need to jump into the conversation there and not leave it to those that were quoted/named?

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              • Originally posted by racrguy View Post
                Yet you felt the need to jump into the conversation there and not leave it to those that were quoted/named?
                As did you?

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                • Originally posted by The King View Post
                  As did you?
                  The difference being, I didn't hide behind not answering a question because I wasn't quoted/named. You just jumped in and then tried to hide behind that bullshit excuse.

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                  • Originally posted by racrguy View Post
                    The difference being, I didn't hide behind not answering a question because I wasn't quoted/named. You just jumped in and then tried to hide behind that bullshit excuse.
                    No hiding here, and the difference is you are providing nothing but your typical bullshit rambling. Nonetheless, thanks for stopping by since you are the named individual in the thread title. You can be entertaining in spite of yourself.

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                    • Originally posted by talisman View Post
                      How so, if the actual reckoning according to Denny won't be until Judgement Day, at which point everyone will have a choice?
                      I won't bother quoting scripture to you (I really just pop in here for the drama and I'm not going to preach to anyone) but Revelation 20:11-15 (the last thing before the new heaven and earth) makes it clear that the dead will be judged by how they lived their life. Actively denying God for decades will be reflected on that day, and I highly doubt there will be a "one final last chance" for those who went out of their way to deny and ignore during their time on Earth.

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                      • So what happens to them in the mean time after death? Guess I on't get the point of Judgement Day since it sounds as if everything has already been judged.

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                        • Originally posted by talisman View Post
                          So what happens to them in the mean time after death? Guess I on't get the point of Judgement Day since it sounds as if everything has already been judged.
                          They await judgement, "sleeping" if you will. Judgement Day may afford those being judged the opportunity to accept Jesus, as in for example those who have never had the opportunity in this life to know Him.

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                          • Originally posted by Strychnine View Post
                            I won't bother quoting scripture to you (I really just pop in here for the drama and I'm not going to preach to anyone) but Revelation 20:11-15 (the last thing before the new heaven and earth) makes it clear that the dead will be judged by how they lived their life. Actively denying God for decades will be reflected on that day, and I highly doubt there will be a "one final last chance" for those who went out of their way to deny and ignore during their time on Earth.
                            Correct. Believe it or not, there is a point of no return on your decision you make while on earth. That's also why I said at that time that every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that He is God.
                            Originally posted by The King View Post
                            They await judgement, "sleeping" if you will. Judgement Day may afford those being judged the opportunity to accept Jesus, as in for example those who have never had the opportunity in this life to know Him.
                            While I do see us in a sleep state, I really wonder how He will judge those who haven't heard of Him or mentally incapable of making a decision.

                            Condemnation comes from the rejection of having Jesus Christ as your Savior. If you didn't get that opportunity to make the decision, then how are you judged?

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                            • Originally posted by talisman View Post
                              So what happens to them in the mean time after death? Guess I on't get the point of Judgement Day since it sounds as if everything has already been judged.
                              Even a guy that was videoed killing another man gets his day in court.

                              Unless a drone blows you up before hand

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                              • Originally posted by Denny View Post

                                Condemnation comes from the rejection of having Jesus Christ as your Savior. If you didn't get that opportunity to make the decision, then how are you judged?


                                Taste in cars. You and Danny are fucked.

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