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  • Magpul Caves in

    I see their short term gain will be a long term failure.
    http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...an-state-leos/
    While nearly 100 companies have pledged to hold all purchasers of firearms and accessories to the standard of what’s available to everyday civilians, in what’s commonly known as the New York boycott, Armalite and now Magpul have taken an opposing stand. (See also The Police Loophole.) The good folks at Magpul have instead sided with Armalite against freedom and law-abiding American firearm owners – and what’s more, they’ve one-upped Armalite in their sales practices . . .

    According to Magpul sales manager (in a post at AR15.com) Justin Beard:

    . . . our Distributors are allowed to sell to LEOs in ban states. Our founder has also said regarding LEO restrictions, “We have not considered such a move as we are not convinced that this tactic will have any effect on those in power (they will just buy Israeli or some other generic parts). It also adversely punishes street cops, local sheriffs and individual military members for the actions of those in power. The last thing we want to do is hurt those who support our cause.”

    So, we see that we can support Law Enforcement and Military members while standing up for our convictions and will continue to do everything in our power to protect our inherent rights.

    Yes, indeed. The last thing they want to do is hurt those who support “our” cause. Apparently, to Magpul, that means supporting those who will enforce unconstitutional restrictions on our Second Amendment rights.

    As we said, Magpul has one-upped Armalite and, to add insult to injury, not only are they selling products to law-enforcement that are banned to civilians in those states, they have established an express lane for law enforcement “professionals” to get their standard-capacity PMAGs right away — even law enforcement officers in restricted access states such as New York that now ban sales of standard capacity magazines to civilians.

    These law enforcement professionals will use these PMAGs in the course of their job-related activities to arrest and prosecute gun owners who were law-abiding at the end of 2012, but are no longer. Both military and law-enforcement can order up to ten PMAGs in this “express lane”.

    From the Magpul website as reported by FN Forums:

    Thank you for contacting us. During this period of high demand, we at Magpul are taking steps to ensure that Military and Law Enforcement professionals that use our products in their job-related activities can still obtain the magazines they need for on-duty use. To meet this need, we have set up a process for Mil/LE purchase of up to ten PMAGs per account from our website.

    In order to participate in this program, go to: Magpul Industries Ecommerce.

    - Create your login account and click the “Register” button to submit.

    - Once you receive a Membership Confirmation e-mail from orders@magpul.com reply directly back to it (RE: ) along with your name and unit or agency affiliation. Please respond using an official .mil or agency e-mail address, or provide other official identification to verify Military or LE status.

    - If you already have a login account at Magpul.com, please just send an e-mail to orders@magpul.com with your name, unit or agency affiliation as outlined above, and the e-mail address you used to sign up for the account.

    It’s clear that Magpul believes in two classes of purchasers for their products. We sincerely wish them the best in selling to police and government agencies, wherever they may be.

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    no longer welcomed in Texas....

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    • #3
      And I will not be purchasing from them.
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      • #4
        What a way to shoot your support right in the ass.

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        • #5
          Wilson just sent out an email saying they are joining all these other gun companies.

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          • #6
            Its always about money. Always.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by no4njnk View Post
              Wilson just sent out an email saying they are joining all these other gun companies.
              that are supporting people or LEO's?

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              • #8
                Wilson Combat Announces
                Anti-Gun States, No-Sale Policy
                Effective: February 28, 2013

                Wilson Combat will no longer provide any products or services to any State Government imposing legislation that infringes on the second amendment rights of its law abiding citizens. This includes any Law Enforcement Department, Law Enforcement Officers, or any State Government Entity or Employee of such an entity. This also applies to any local municipality imposing such infringements.

                States currently included in our No-Sale Policy are:
                •California
                •Hawaii
                •Maryland
                •Massachusetts
                •New Jersey
                •New York
                •Washington D.C.
                •The City of Chicago, Illinois
                Wilson Combat will in NO way support the government of these states or their anti-gun agenda that only limits the rights of law-abiding citizens. Wilson Combat will continue to supply any product and/or service they can legally sell in these states to all non-government affiliated citizens.

                Ryan Wilson,
                Vice President


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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sleeper View Post
                  Its always about money. Always.
                  In this country, absolutely.

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                  • #10
                    Update

                    REGARDING LEO SALES
                    March 1st, 2013

                    Back in 1990, when I was deployed in Desert Shield and Desert Storm as a Marine grunt, some companies prioritized me items for my M16 for shipping that I purchased with my own funds. After getting out and forming Magpul in 1999, I established the same priority policy for Military and Law Enforcement, due to the requirements of their profession.

                    The same policy has been in place for 13 years now and has never been an issue until a few days ago. I do not support the idea that individual police officers should be punished for the actions of their elected officials. That said, I understand the concerns that some have with Law Enforcement officers getting special treatment while at the same time denouncing second amendment rights to another citizen in the same state.

                    With the fight in Colorado right now we do not have time to implement a new program, so I have suspended all LE sales to ban states until we can implement a system wherein any Law Enforcement Officer buying for duty use will have to promise to uphold their oath to the US Constitution - specifically the second and fourteenth amendments - as it applies to all citizens.

                    Richard Fitzpatrick
                    President/CEO - Founder
                    Magpul Industries

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                    • #11
                      Looks like the pressure of the consumer has forced them to reconsider thier position.
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                      • #12
                        I wish they would have stuck to their original plan, but I can understand them having to be flexible. And to those that think this is about money, it's not. It's not like pmags are hard to sell, and the demand for them is insane just among the civilian population, not too mention the military. Loss of LEO sales to the few states that are passing bans is a drop in the bucket. I think they are just trying to avoid any backlash in the possibility of being accused of "abandoning" LEOs. Personally, I don't think it would have been an issue, but I have heard some people gripe about it.

                        -Eric

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sleeper View Post
                          Its always about money. Always.
                          As it should be

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DallasSleeper View Post
                            REGARDING LEO SALES
                            March 1st, 2013

                            Back in 1990, when I was deployed in Desert Shield and Desert Storm as a Marine grunt, some companies prioritized me items for my M16 for shipping that I purchased with my own funds. After getting out and forming Magpul in 1999, I established the same priority policy for Military and Law Enforcement, due to the requirements of their profession.

                            The same policy has been in place for 13 years now and has never been an issue until a few days ago. I do not support the idea that individual police officers should be punished for the actions of their elected officials. That said, I understand the concerns that some have with Law Enforcement officers getting special treatment while at the same time denouncing second amendment rights to another citizen in the same state.

                            With the fight in Colorado right now we do not have time to implement a new program, so I have suspended all LE sales to ban states until we can implement a system wherein any Law Enforcement Officer buying for duty use will have to promise to uphold their oath to the US Constitution - specifically the second and fourteenth amendments - as it applies to all citizens.

                            Richard Fitzpatrick
                            President/CEO - Founder
                            Magpul Industries


                            I like this; sounds like they are planning something similar to what Silencerco did.
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                            • #15
                              Magpul has issued lawmakers an ultimatum potentially worth millions: Pass the bill, and the business will move.Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...#ixzz2MXjSUGSF
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