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[racrguy]

I believe in witchcraft. Still exists. Still have fortune tellers and astrologers so I'll be up front and say I believe in it

Yet another reason why nobody takes you seriously.

[Vertnut]

lol.

[line-em-up]

So your response is the same then, because they're two different questions?

What the fuck are you talking about? He asked if I believe in Witchcraft.

Nevermind. I was reading the thread on my phone as I was walking to lunch. I didn't see the second question until just now.

[line-em-up]

So, you don't trust the bible enough to believe in witchcraft, but you'll trust it enough to believe in lichs and zombies?

I didn't say that I do or don't believe in witchcraft. I don't have an opinion on it. This world is full of strange phenomena. As for zombies and lichs, I don't believe in those.

I know you are probably going to try to dismantle the Bible. Have fun. There are many questions I have about it myself. That doesn't make it less important to me.

[Maddhattter]

I didn't say that I do or don't believe in witchcraft.

Actually, you did.

I don't have an opinion on it. This world is full of strange phenomena.

LOOK! LOOK! You did it again! If you cannot say that you believe in it then you, by definition, do not believe in it. That is not to say that you believe that witchcraft does not exist, only that you do not believe that it does.

As for zombies and lichs, I don't believe in those.

If you believe the Jesus story, and I admit that I'm assuming that you do and are Christian, than you do believe in lichs and zombies.

I know you are probably going to try to dismantle the Bible. Have fun. There are many questions I have about it myself. That doesn't make it less important to me.

Not intending on dismantling the bible at all. Just demonstrating that the claim that belief in witchcraft among Christians is either "traditional", making your argument about Racr's source invalid, or it's not "traditional" and Christians only pick and choose what to believe out of the bible as it explicitly speaks of witches and sorcerers, both of whom practice witchcraft.

I do wonder why you would find book so important that you would stake your life on it's instructions, yet do not even trust what's in it... That is, however, outside the scope of this thread.

[line-em-up]

Actually, you did.



LOOK! LOOK! You did it again! If you cannot say that you believe in it then you, by definition, do not believe in it. That is not to say that you believe that witchcraft does not exist, only that you do not believe that it does.



If you believe the Jesus story, and I admit that I'm assuming that you do and are Christian, than you do believe in lichs and zombies.



Not intending on dismantling the bible at all. Just demonstrating that the claim that belief in witchcraft among Christians is either "traditional", making your argument about Racr's source invalid, or it's not "traditional" and Christians only pick and choose what to believe out of the bible as it explicitly speaks of witches and sorcerers, both of whom practice witchcraft.

I do wonder why you would find book so important that you would stake your life on it's instructions, yet do not even trust what's in it... That is, however, outside the scope of this thread.

I don't have to take a side on whether I believe or not. I really couldn't give a shit whether it does or not. You've proven just what I figured you were going to do. You are trying to take everything I say, twist it around to suit your needs, blow it all out of proportion and then try to discredit me and the Bible. Here is something I do believe in. I'll think what I want and you think what you want. If you don't like it, tough shit. Now, go play in your little corner.

[Maddhattter]

I don't have to take a side on whether I believe or not.

Again, you did. I even explained how that works.

I really couldn't give a shit whether it does or not.

I don't see why you wouldn't. If it does, you've a mandate to kill the practitioner. I'd expect a Christian to want to follow their god's rules.

You've proven just what I figured you were going to do. You are trying to take everything I say, twist it around to suit your needs, blow it all out of proportion and then try to discredit me and the Bible.

At least you've consistantly demonstrated that you fail at reading comprehension, as I've done none of that.

Here is something I do believe in. I'll think what I want and you think what you want. If you don't like it, tough shit.

This is true. However, only one of us can be right. Considering all the available evidence supports me, It would seem that you're likely not that person.

Now, go play in your little corner.

You also refuse to defend your faith by telling me to go away? That's fairly typical.

All in all, your argument to Racr's point has no merit, as your primary source doesn't even have your confidence.

[Forever_frost]

Yet another reason why nobody takes you seriously.

You're saying no one practices witchcraft? These guys are going to be crushed.

http://www.witchcraft.org/

[stevo]

While glossing over the past of yours and not seeing that it is opportunistic?

I guess you still condemn America to this day for slavery as well....

Stevo

[racrguy]

I guess you still condemn America to this day for slavery as well....

Stevo

To an extent I do. The biggest difference being that America has changed its laws and Constitution when it realized what it was doing was wrong. Christians just decided to ignore what they've done or point the finger at the bigger badder kid in the room in attempts to shift the attention of scrutiny onto the other groups. Or they just pulled a Catholic church and actively impede investigations into its wrongdoings by investigators.

[YALE]

You're saying no one practices witchcraft? These guys are going to be crushed.

http://www.witchcraft.org/

You can delude yourself however you want to, I reckon.

[racrguy]

You can delude yourself however you want to, I reckon.

I wasn't going to justify that post with a response.

[Forever_frost]

If Christians are to be held for sins of the past, does that mean that atheists and agnostics are responsible for those who claim those beliefs as well? Racr, are you responsible for the actions of Mao?

[Forever_frost]

You can delude yourself however you want to, I reckon.

How is pointing out that people practice a religion called 'witchcraft' a delusion? Are you saying that that doesn't exist?

Also a delusion? http://www.templeofwitchcraft.org/

About the Temple

Co-founded by Christopher Penczak, Steve Kenson, and Adam Sartwell, the Temple started in 1998 as a system of magickal training and personal development, and eventually developed into a formal tradition of Witchcraft.

Now, as an outgrowth of the work of students, initiates, and graduates of the programs, the Temple of Witchcraft has evolved into an organization based on traditions of modern magick, Witchcraft, and neopaganism. The work of the Temple is both other-worldly and terrestrial, seeking to strengthen the connections between spirit and matter through inner transformation and public service.

[racrguy]

If Christians are to be held for sins of the past, does that mean that atheists and agnostics are responsible for those who claim those beliefs as well? Racr, are you responsible for the actions of Mao?

No, I'm not, as Mao didn't do it in the name of atheism, unlike the christians killing and torturing the kids for being witches.