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  • Maddhattter
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    Originally posted by line-em-up View Post
    I didn't say that I do or don't believe in witchcraft.
    Actually, you did.

    Originally posted by line-em-up
    I don't have an opinion on it. This world is full of strange phenomena.
    LOOK! LOOK! You did it again! If you cannot say that you believe in it then you, by definition, do not believe in it. That is not to say that you believe that witchcraft does not exist, only that you do not believe that it does.

    Originally posted by line-em-up
    As for zombies and lichs, I don't believe in those.
    If you believe the Jesus story, and I admit that I'm assuming that you do and are Christian, than you do believe in lichs and zombies.

    Originally posted by line-em-up
    I know you are probably going to try to dismantle the Bible. Have fun. There are many questions I have about it myself. That doesn't make it less important to me.
    Not intending on dismantling the bible at all. Just demonstrating that the claim that belief in witchcraft among Christians is either "traditional", making your argument about Racr's source invalid, or it's not "traditional" and Christians only pick and choose what to believe out of the bible as it explicitly speaks of witches and sorcerers, both of whom practice witchcraft.

    I do wonder why you would find book so important that you would stake your life on it's instructions, yet do not even trust what's in it... That is, however, outside the scope of this thread.

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  • line-em-up
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    Originally posted by Maddhattter View Post
    So, you don't trust the bible enough to believe in witchcraft, but you'll trust it enough to believe in lichs and zombies?
    I didn't say that I do or don't believe in witchcraft. I don't have an opinion on it. This world is full of strange phenomena. As for zombies and lichs, I don't believe in those.

    I know you are probably going to try to dismantle the Bible. Have fun. There are many questions I have about it myself. That doesn't make it less important to me.

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  • line-em-up
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    Originally posted by racrguy View Post
    So your response is the same then, because they're two different questions?
    What the fuck are you talking about? He asked if I believe in Witchcraft.

    Nevermind. I was reading the thread on my phone as I was walking to lunch. I didn't see the second question until just now.

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  • Vertnut
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    lol.

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  • racrguy
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    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
    I believe in witchcraft. Still exists. Still have fortune tellers and astrologers so I'll be up front and say I believe in it
    Yet another reason why nobody takes you seriously.

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  • Forever_frost
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    I believe in witchcraft. Still exists. Still have fortune tellers and astrologers so I'll be up front and say I believe in it

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  • racrguy
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    Originally posted by line-em-up View Post
    I did in post #68.
    So your response is the same then, because they're two different questions?

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  • line-em-up
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    Originally posted by racrguy View Post
    You gonna answer this question?
    I did in post #68.

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  • racrguy
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    Originally posted by line-em-up View Post
    I undertand. As i was typing my response i figured i would get sort of reply. A christian would say that you can believe what you feel. As for a muslim, it may be a different story.
    You gonna answer this question?

    Originally posted by Maddhattter View Post
    So, you don't trust the bible enough to believe in witchcraft, but you'll trust it enough to believe in lichs and zombies?

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  • line-em-up
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    Originally posted by YALE View Post
    You've just summarized my view of Christianity.
    I undertand. As i was typing my response i figured i would get sort of reply. A christian would say that you can believe what you feel. As for a muslim, it may be a different story.

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  • YALE
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    Originally posted by line-em-up View Post
    I've never given it a lot of thought. It may exist, but have never seen it.
    You've just summarized my view of Christianity.

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  • Maddhattter
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    Originally posted by line-em-up View Post
    I've never given it a lot of thought. It may exist, but have never seen it.
    So, you don't trust the bible enough to believe in witchcraft, but you'll trust it enough to believe in lichs and zombies?

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  • line-em-up
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    Originally posted by Maddhattter View Post
    So, do you believe in witchcraft?
    I've never given it a lot of thought. It may exist, but have never seen it.

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  • Maddhattter
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    So, do you believe in witchcraft?

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  • line-em-up
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    New Testament
    1 John 4:1 ESV / 19 helpful votes
    Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

    Revelation 21:8 ESV / 16 helpful votes
    But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

    Galatians 5:19-21 ESV / 16 helpful votes
    Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

    Acts 13:8-10 ESV / 12 helpful votes
    But Elymas the magician (for that is the meaning of his name) opposed them, seeking to turn the proconsul away from the faith. But Saul, who was also called Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit, looked intently at him and said, “You son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, full of all deceit and villainy, will you not stop making crooked the straight paths of the Lord?

    1 John 4:4 ESV / 10 helpful votes
    Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.

    1 Peter 5:8 ESV / 7 helpful votes
    Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.

    James 2:19 ESV / 7 helpful votes
    You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder!

    Acts 19:18-20 ESV / 6 helpful votes
    Also many of those who were now believers came, confessing and divulging their practices. And a number of those who had practiced magic arts brought their books together and burned them in the sight of all. And they counted the value of them and found it came to fifty thousand pieces of silver. So the word of the Lord continued to increase and prevail mightily.

    Luke 8:2 ESV / 6 helpful votes
    And also some women who had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities: Mary, called Magdalene, from whom seven demons had gone out,

    Revelation 22:15 ESV / 5 helpful votes
    Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and the sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

    2 Corinthians 11:14 ESV / 5 helpful votes
    And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.

    Acts 16:16 ESV / 5 helpful votes
    As we were going to the place of prayer, we were met by a slave girl who had a spirit of divination and brought her owners much gain by fortune-telling.

    1 John 4:18 ESV / 3 helpful votes
    There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.

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