What a dog-rocket of biblical proportions!!

[Forever_frost]

Actually, Stolen Valor was adding another section to this law. Stolen Valor was struck down, this wasn't. Take it as you like.

[racrguy]

Actually, Stolen Valor was adding another section to this law. Stolen Valor was struck down, this wasn't. Take it as you like.

You can't read.

[exlude]

I am the constitutionalist. I fail to see how this violates free speech or expression. If you wish to wear a military uniform, you must remove insignia of the branch and cannot wear the medals. Now, you can parody it all you like however you cannot wear it with identifying marks marking it as belonging to the specific branch.

100% in line with the constitution.

What you're missing, which you would normally catch, is what gives the federal government the power to limit what you are allowed to wear? Which enumerated power is that? (These are the arguments I see you make consistently except when it comes to things like this.)

[Forever_frost]

What you're missing, which you would normally catch, is what gives the federal government the power to limit what you are allowed to wear? Which enumerated power is that? (These are the arguments I see you make consistently except when it comes to things like this.)

If they aren't issued clothing, you're right. As the military paid for those, they are, ultimately, the property of the US government. I'm pretty sure my boots still say "US GOV" on them. Those medals do actually say on the back of them (well, my few that I actually keep out do) Property of the US. Take those off and do with it as you will. All I'm saying is remove anything that is trademarked by the branch (insignia and medals) and you're golden. Copyright law is in the constitution. If you feel like making an outfit with your bare hands that looks identical to the uniforms, go for it. Don't use anything with a copy written image or medals ultimately owned by the government.

That simple, 100% in line with the constitution. If you'd like to do your own medals that look like the real ones, feel free to write to the Office of Heraldry for permission to use their trademarked emblems.

http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/UniformedServices/Uniformed.aspx

[YALE]

Except the military doesn't pay for dress blues. Marines have to buy them.

[exlude]

If they aren't issued clothing, you're right. As the military paid for those, they are, ultimately, the property of the US government. I'm pretty sure my boots still say "US GOV" on them. Those medals do actually say on the back of them (well, my few that I actually keep out do) Property of the US. Take those off and do with it as you will. All I'm saying is remove anything that is trademarked by the branch (insignia and medals) and you're golden. Copyright law is in the constitution. If you feel like making an outfit with your bare hands that looks identical to the uniforms, go for it. Don't use anything with a copy written image or medals ultimately owned by the government.

That simple, 100% in line with the constitution. If you'd like to do your own medals that look like the real ones, feel free to write to the Office of Heraldry for permission to use their trademarked emblems.

http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/Un...Uniformed.aspx

You do not need permission to wear trademarks for any civilian brand, just to produce and profit...why would you for government items?

These items can be purchased online or second hand easily. Just because it was once owned by the government doesnt mean it always is. If it did, surplus stores wouldn't exist.

Also, are medals and uniforms actually trademarked by the government? That would be news to me. I know the multicam pattern is only licensed to the government but owned by the inventing company.

Just for clarity, I dont think people should be allowed to wear my uniform...but I'll admit that stance is greedy and against my generally constitutionalist views.

[racrguy]

You do not need permission to wear trademarks for any civilian brand, just to produce and profit...why would you for government items?

These items can be purchased online or second hand easily. Just because it was once owned by the government doesnt mean it always is. If it did, surplus stores wouldn't exist.

Also, are medals and uniforms actually trademarked by the government? That would be news to me. I know the multicam pattern is only licensed to the government but owned by the inventing company.

Just for clarity, I dont think people should be allowed to wear my uniform...but I'll admit that stance is greedy and against my generally constitutionalist views.

Yep, that's treason. Time to take you out back so we can reenact Old Yeller.

[Forever_frost]

You do not need permission to wear trademarks for any civilian brand, just to produce and profit...why would you for government items?

These items can be purchased online or second hand easily. Just because it was once owned by the government doesnt mean it always is. If it did, surplus stores wouldn't exist.

Also, are medals and uniforms actually trademarked by the government? That would be news to me. I know the multicam pattern is only licensed to the government but owned by the inventing company.

Just for clarity, I dont think people should be allowed to wear my uniform...but I'll admit that stance is greedy and against my generally constitutionalist views.

No, but you do need permission to reproduce it and military medals and branch insignia are owned by the respective branch. Check out the link I provided. It's pretty neat. You have all the permission in the world to wear the cloth. You just don't have authorization to put it together. When you do, it becomes a uniform and covered under the law I provided. Same as if I wear a dark blue button up, no problem. If I wear black slacks and shoes, no issue. If I put them on together, not a thing wrong. I put a badge on that says DPD? THEN there's an issue. Taken individually, you are right. However you do not have permission or a right to wear the uniform (everything together) of a branch of the military in which you do not belong.

Which is why you'll never see me wearing the Marine dress uniform though it looks so much more neat than the Army one.

[Forever_frost]

Department of Defense and Military Seals are protected by law from unauthorized use, and these seals may NOT be used for non-official purposes.
However, the Military Services may approve the use of their Service emblem or coat of arms as a substitute on a case-by-case basis. There is no such substitute for the Department of Defense Seal, and there is NO optional graphic that would represent the Department of Defense.

Because of the wide range of specific requirements (material, size, color, etc.) desired for each individual requestor's project, DoD does not stock or provide emblems for such use. The production of emblems is the responsibility of each requestor. Final approval for use of Military Service emblems and additional information as to the design of the emblems, specific colors used and the availability of graphic masters or camera-ready masters can be obtained from the following offices:


FAQs ~ General Information

Q1: Are Service Seals public domain?

Graphic images and guidance on their use is available at www.defenselink.mil/faq/pis/sealuse.html

Q2: How do I obtain permission to use a service seal for commercial purposes?

Those wishing to use service seals (Army, Marine Corps, Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard and Department of Defense) for commercial purposes should contact the appropriate office listed at www.defenselink.mil/faq/pis/sealuse.html

Q3: How do I obtain permission to use a unit insignia?

The Institute of Heraldry does not grant permission to use an individual unit insignia or maintain a roster of names of unit commanders. The unit’s commander is responsible for granting permission to use unit insignia for commercial purposes.

[racrguy]

The SCOTUS says shut the fuck up.

[4eyedwillie]

Department of Defense and Military Seals are protected by law from unauthorized use, and these seals may NOT be used for non-official purposes.
However, the Military Services may approve the use of their Service emblem or coat of arms as a substitute on a case-by-case basis. There is no such substitute for the Department of Defense Seal, and there is NO optional graphic that would represent the Department of Defense.

Because of the wide range of specific requirements (material, size, color, etc.) desired for each individual requestor's project, DoD does not stock or provide emblems for such use. The production of emblems is the responsibility of each requestor. Final approval for use of Military Service emblems and additional information as to the design of the emblems, specific colors used and the availability of graphic masters or camera-ready masters can be obtained from the following offices:


FAQs ~ General Information

Q1: Are Service Seals public domain?

Graphic images and guidance on their use is available at www.defenselink.mil/faq/pis/sealuse.html

Q2: How do I obtain permission to use a service seal for commercial purposes?

Those wishing to use service seals (Army, Marine Corps, Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard and Department of Defense) for commercial purposes should contact the appropriate office listed at www.defenselink.mil/faq/pis/sealuse.html

Q3: How do I obtain permission to use a unit insignia?

The Institute of Heraldry does not grant permission to use an individual unit insignia or maintain a roster of names of unit commanders. The unit’s commander is responsible for granting permission to use unit insignia for commercial purposes.

I guess you missed these little points (highlighted) If I'm wearing it because I think it's neat for a costume party I'm not using it for commercial purposes.
You previous post about the DPD dressup game is wrong also. You can have the uniform on you just can't act like your a cop.

[Forever_frost]

Tell you what sparky, wear a DPD uniform with badge and drive around. Let me know what DPD says.

[Forever_frost]

The SCOTUS says shut the fuck up.

No, they didn't. They struck down Stolen Valor, not the US Code. Put up or shut up. Show me the repeal of the law I stated.

[Forever_frost]

I guess you missed these little points (highlighted) If I'm wearing it because I think it's neat for a costume party I'm not using it for commercial purposes.
You previous post about the DPD dressup game is wrong also. You can have the uniform on you just can't act like your a cop.

I guess you missed this:

Department of Defense and Military Seals are protected by law from unauthorized use, and these seals may NOT be used for non-official purposes.
However, the Military Services may approve the use of their Service emblem or coat of arms as a substitute on a case-by-case basis. There is no such substitute for the Department of Defense Seal, and there is NO optional graphic that would represent the Department of Defense.

Protected by law from unauthorized use and may not be used for NON OFFICIAL PURPOSES

[racrguy]

No, they didn't. They struck down Stolen Valor, not the US Code. Put up or shut up. Show me the repeal of the law I stated.

Start here, pull your head out of your ass.