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  • #16
    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
    You are absolutely right. Service members are not eligible for rewards. That's something I disagree with. If you're doing the job, it shoudlnt' matter who you work for. Since he's a service member, and not eligible for the cash AND living in fear of terrorists who want to take him out, you make things right
    Just like most companies. Inventions, discoveries, etc are company intellectual property kind of thing.

    But nonetheless, the man and his family deserve a new life at the least. Tell him to move to Texas, meet our Governor and Cruz and have a scotch together. He could land a job fairly easily that way. I am not saying to violate national secrets or his agreement with the government regarding his knowledge but hey...........
    Fuck you. We're going to Costco.

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    • #17
      I'm sure he could get a job at Craft

      http://www.thecraft.com/craft_careers.htmlall he needs to do is apply. http://www.thecraft.com/
      Don't worry about what you can't change.
      Do the best you can with what you have.
      Be honest, even if it hurts.

      "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy; Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery" ... Winston Churchill

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      • #18
        He said he was tired of living by the gun and putting his body through the wringer. Combat arms people tend to wear out fairly quick, especially knees, shoulders and eyes and back.
        I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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        • #19
          Originally posted by jyro View Post
          We pay those guys as "Managers" over $219,000 a year but unfortunatley the game here is coming to a close. There is a lot of call for people like him in our field. The tough part is being deployed pretty much for a living but for the kind of money his resume and networking could pull, the jobs are out there and in the 6 digit figures. No runnin, no gunnin, no physical shit, just all mental. I work with numerous former SF guys, 1 prior Delta, no SEALS right now but we have a few on project that work in roles not related to Security.
          Fuck you. We're going to Costco.

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          • #20
            he can join Craft as a instructor

            Originally posted by kbscobravert View Post
            We pay those guys as "Managers" over $219,000 a year but unfortunatley the game here is coming to a close.
            I don't believe much of that writers story.
            Being married to Sharon Stone is a mark against him. Living in Ca. all his life is another.
            Last edited by jyro; 02-12-2013, 12:27 AM.
            Don't worry about what you can't change.
            Do the best you can with what you have.
            Be honest, even if it hurts.

            "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy; Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery" ... Winston Churchill

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            • #21
              I'm neither for, nor against him, but can't he apply for some disability through the military, if he's to the point he can't work?

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              • #22
                then there's this from Stars and Stripes

                http://www.stripes.com/blogs/the-rup...hcare-1.207506

                Esquire article wrongly claims SEAL who killed Bin Laden is denied healthcare
                By Megan McCloskey
                Published: February 11, 2013
                Esquire magazine claims “The Man Who Killed Osama bin Laden ... Is Screwed.”

                The story details the life of the Navy SEAL after the successful raid to take out the No. 1 terrorist, and it asserts that once the SEAL got out of the military he was left to fend for himself.

                “...here is what he gets from his employer and a grateful nation:

                Nothing. No pension, no health care, and no protection for himself or his family.”

                Except the claim about health care is wrong. And no servicemember who does less than 20 years gets a pension, unless he has to medically retire.

                Like every combat veteran of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, the former SEAL, who is identified in the story only as “the Shooter”, is automatically eligible for five years of free healthcare through the Department of Veterans Affairs.

                But the story doesn’t mention that.

                The writer, Phil Bronstein, who heads up the Center for Investigative Reporting, stands by the story. He said the assertion that the government gave the SEAL “nothing” in terms of health care is both fair and accurate, because the SEAL didn’t know the VA benefits existed.

                “No one ever told him that this is available,” Bronstein said.

                He said there wasn’t space in the article to explain that the former SEAL’s lack of healthcare was driven by an ignorance of the benefits to which he is entitled.

                “That’s a different story,” Bronstein said in a phone interview with Stars and Stripes about what he omitted from the article.

                The Center for Investigating Reporting posted a story on its website today that goes into greater detail about the SEAL's interactions with the VA, including that he has a disability claim that is stuck in the backlog.

                Esquire magazine has not yet responded to a request for comment.

                The story’s claims are getting a lot of buzz - The Washington Post picked up the detail about the SEAL's healthcare situation - disconcerting veteran advocates like Brandon Friedman, who served as an Army infantry officer in Iraq and Afghanistan and used to be a VA public affairs officer.

                “Misinformation like this doesn’t help veterans,” he said. “When one veteran hears in a high-profile story that another veteran was denied care, it makes him or her less likely to enroll in the VA system.”
                Don't worry about what you can't change.
                Do the best you can with what you have.
                Be honest, even if it hurts.

                "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy; Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery" ... Winston Churchill

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by jyro View Post
                  http://www.stripes.com/blogs/the-rup...hcare-1.207506

                  Esquire article wrongly claims SEAL who killed Bin Laden is denied healthcare
                  By Megan McCloskey
                  Published: February 11, 2013
                  Esquire magazine claims “The Man Who Killed Osama bin Laden ... Is Screwed.”

                  The story details the life of the Navy SEAL after the successful raid to take out the No. 1 terrorist, and it asserts that once the SEAL got out of the military he was left to fend for himself.

                  “...here is what he gets from his employer and a grateful nation:

                  Nothing. No pension, no health care, and no protection for himself or his family.”

                  Except the claim about health care is wrong. And no servicemember who does less than 20 years gets a pension, unless he has to medically retire.

                  Like every combat veteran of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, the former SEAL, who is identified in the story only as “the Shooter”, is automatically eligible for five years of free healthcare through the Department of Veterans Affairs.

                  But the story doesn’t mention that.

                  The writer, Phil Bronstein, who heads up the Center for Investigative Reporting, stands by the story. He said the assertion that the government gave the SEAL “nothing” in terms of health care is both fair and accurate, because the SEAL didn’t know the VA benefits existed.

                  “No one ever told him that this is available,” Bronstein said.

                  He said there wasn’t space in the article to explain that the former SEAL’s lack of healthcare was driven by an ignorance of the benefits to which he is entitled.

                  “That’s a different story,” Bronstein said in a phone interview with Stars and Stripes about what he omitted from the article.

                  The Center for Investigating Reporting posted a story on its website today that goes into greater detail about the SEAL's interactions with the VA, including that he has a disability claim that is stuck in the backlog.

                  Esquire magazine has not yet responded to a request for comment.

                  The story’s claims are getting a lot of buzz - The Washington Post picked up the detail about the SEAL's healthcare situation - disconcerting veteran advocates like Brandon Friedman, who served as an Army infantry officer in Iraq and Afghanistan and used to be a VA public affairs officer.

                  “Misinformation like this doesn’t help veterans,” he said. “When one veteran hears in a high-profile story that another veteran was denied care, it makes him or her less likely to enroll in the VA system.”
                  And boom goes the dynamite.

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                  • #24
                    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012...g-worsens?lite
                    Don't worry about what you can't change.
                    Do the best you can with what you have.
                    Be honest, even if it hurts.

                    "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy; Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery" ... Winston Churchill

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Denny View Post
                      All he has to do is lead a diverse group of badasses and repeat the phrase, "I love it when a plan comes together."
                      And shoot 300 rounds and hit no one.

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                      • #26
                        Just coming out of ST6 there are hundreds of places he can go to work in an instructor roll without disclosing that he was the one who actually did the shooting.

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                        • #27
                          It took me 2 years to get my disability claim and another year or so for appeals to get where I am. I absolutely believe his story about getting the boot. The VA docs are also horrible about "Well that can't possibly be service connected" and billing you for treatment of anything that isn't. When he got out, he had 1 year of dental waiting and until he has his rating, that's about it.

                          The military also tends to make it a point to not tell you what is out there as far as benefits and (it could have changed since I got out) the VA will not reach out to you to inform you either. Coming back with a TBI and having trouble figuring out where you are much less all the paperwork that you have to fill out? Tough. Now there is the AW2 and I think all branches have one for their most severely wounded but there is a massive lack of info unless you are willing to dig, willing to call your Congressman and know what to look for.
                          I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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                          • #28
                            FF is 100% correct. That's one of the huge roles that AL and I believe VFW play, is helping people navigate the VA system.
                            Originally posted by MR EDD
                            U defend him who use's racial slurs like hes drinking water.

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                            • #29
                              all vets should be treated equally within our government for healthcare

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                              • #30
                                You also have the DAV and Military Order of the Purple Heart. If you represent yourself with the VA, you're going nowhere and it'll take years to get anywhere. When THEY start calling, things start moving. You just have to know where to network.
                                I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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