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    Calif. seeks to adopt nation's toughest gun laws

    http://news.yahoo.com/calif-seeks-ad...220030130.html



    SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Weeks after New York enacted the nation's toughest gun laws, California lawmakers said Thursday they want their state to do even more in response to recent mass shootings, particularly the Connecticut school massacre.

    Democrats who control the state Legislature revealed 10 proposals that they said would make California the most restrictive state for possessing firearms.

    They were joined at a Capitol news conference by San Francisco Mayor Ed Lee and Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, along with several police chiefs.

    "California has always been a leader on the issue of gun safety," Villaraigosa said. "New York has stepped up and stepped forward. California needs to answer the call."

    Among the measures is one that would outlaw the future sale of semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines. The restriction would prevent quick reloading by requiring bullets to be loaded one at a time.

    Lawmakers also want to make some prohibitions apply to current gun owners, not just to people who buy weapons in the future.

    Like New York, California also would require background checks for buying ammunition and would add to the list of prohibited weapons.

    Those buying ammunition would have to pay a fee and undergo an initial background check by the state Department of Justice, similar to what is required now before buyers can purchase a weapon. Subsequent background checks would be done instantly by an ammunition seller checking the Justice Department's records.

    The legislation also would ban possession of magazines holding more than 10 bullets, even by those who now own them legally. All weapons would have to be registered.

    Sam Paredes, executive director of Gun Owners of California, promised that gun proponents will fight the measures in court if they become law.

    "It strikes me as if these folks are playing some sort of game of one-upsmanship with New York at the expense of law-abiding citizens, and that's just unconscionable," he said about lawmakers.

    Three bills have been introduced, with others to come before this month's deadline for submitting legislation.

    The measures are the most stringent to date among numerous proposals introduced this year to strengthen California's firearm regulations.

    Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg said he is confident Democrats can use their majorities in the Assembly and Senate to send the measures to Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown this year.

    Brown has declined to comment on weapons legislation before it reaches him.

    Steinberg said the measures are designed to close numerous loopholes that gun manufacturers have exploited to get around California's existing restrictions.

    Those measures had been the strongest in the nation until Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed New York's new law last month.

    Other proposed measures in California would ban so-called "bullet buttons" that can be used to quickly detach and reload magazines in semi-automatic rifles, and update the legal definition of shotguns to prohibit a new version that can rapidly fire shotgun shells and .45-caliber ammunition.

    The state also would restrict the lending of guns to keep weapons from felons, mentally ill people and others who are prohibited from ownership.

  • #2
    Restrict lending of guns? How would you possibly enforce that?
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    • #3
      They're fucking stupid if they're going to ban .410 shotguns. Hell, even if they ban those stupid Judge revolvers, that's also pretty stupid.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
        Restrict lending of guns? How would you possibly enforce that?
        Do people lend out their guns that much? There are maybe three people I would loan a gun, and none of them would ask.

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        • #5
          Personally? I don't lend guns out if I have them. I have before due to personal defense needs of family and friends however
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          • #6
            Originally posted by YOLO View Post
            They're fucking stupid if they're going to ban .410 shotguns. Hell, even if they ban those stupid Judge revolvers, that's also pretty stupid.
            Look who we are talking about, They are Democratically controlled across the board. This will pass

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            • #7
              I like the part about the "Bullet Button"

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              • #8
                I actually had to look it up a few weeks ago. Brilliant idea to get around the ban but thing about tricks, they work until the other side learn them
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                • #9
                  Fuck this is the one of the big reasons I'm not looking forward to my PCS move out there :/
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                  • #10
                    Haha. California has to be the worst state in the union. They've done everything they can to run their citizens away with stupid taxes and now they won't let them own anymore than a single shot pea shooter it seems.
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                    • #11
                      And they are too stupid to understand speed loaders for revolvers. There is a reason that state is called the land of fruits and nuts...
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                      • #12
                        I just read another one where Colorado is trying to hold gun manufacturers liable for damage caused by firearms.
                        http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...le-for-crimes/


                        The owners and makers of assault-style weapons could soon be held legally liable in Colorado for crimes committed with their guns, if sponsors of a new gun-control package have their way.

                        State Democrats unveiled the broad package of measures this week, joined by gun violence survivors from the Columbine, Aurora and Sandy Hook shootings.

                        The eight bills detailed at a press conference Tuesday tackle gun control as well as mental health issues tied to gun violence. Among them are measures to put universal background checks in place for private gun sales and a bill to ban sales of high-capacity ammunition magazines.

                        But getting the most attention is the gun manufacturer-liability measure.

                        “This is the most aggressive anti-gun legislation ever floated in the country,” Republican Sen. Greg Brophy told FoxNews.com Thursday. “To hold everybody in the entire chain of possession responsible for a crime committed by one person? The manufacturer, dealer and owners? That’s equivalent to blaming Coors for a drunk driver and the 7-Eleven after someone steals a 12-pack.”

                        The proposal would hold manufacturers of firearms, as well as sellers, responsible for crimes committed with those guns. The measure apparently conflicts with an existing federal law, but Democrats in the state reportedly say they want to get that federal law repealed.

                        Republicans say the gun liability measure would effectively ban those weapons because manufacturers and retailers would be afraid to sell them.

                        While Democrats hold a majority in both state houses, though, getting the sweeping series of bills passed will be an uphill battle.

                        Colorado has taken center stage in the country’s fight over gun control. David Keene, the head of the National Rifle Association, is in Denver to meet with Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper and Senate President John Morse.

                        Keene called universal background checks a political "sweet spot," during an interview with The Associated Press on Thursday. He added that the current background check systems are underfunded and that forcing them on private sales would be logistically difficult.

                        Colorado’s governor has said in the past he supports background checks, but he has remained publicly quiet about the legislative package introduced earlier this week.

                        “The governor is hiding under his desk when it comes to answering the hard questions,” Brophy said. “It took me 30 seconds to figure out what the plans do. The governor shouldn’t be given a pass. He needs to address the issue.”

                        Calls for comment to the governor’s office were not immediately returned.

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                        • #13
                          "Those weapons"....

                          You don't need more than 1 round to kill a person, and honestly hammers are still used more.

                          F'ing morons. I think the politicians in CO are partaking.
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                          • #14
                            You won't loan your gun- but define that first. You go to the range with a friend and allow them to shoot your gun with you there? Loan?

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                            • #15

                              Skip to 6:30 for the gold...

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