"This nation of immigrants"

[Vertnut]

Has anyone actually read what it requires for citizenship?

No sir. I haven't. It's the reason I'm reserving judgement.

[mstng86]

You are correct. I think that this bill has provisions for that, and if they don't want to be citizens, they will leave.

So then nothing will change. No one is going to round up all those illegals and send them out. Its all banter.

[Vertnut]

So then nothing will change. No one is going to round up all those illegals and send them out. Its all banter.

I haven't read it yet.

[FreightTrain]

What I love is all the reports I see claim there is an estimated 10 million illegals in this country. What if they are wrong? What if there are 50 million illegals in the country? I think we need to have a pay to play system. If you want be a citizen you should have to pay 50k up front and agree to be taxed at the highest tax rate for the next 10 years. If you can't or won't agree to these terms we don't want your ass here.

[Lason]

Has anyone actually read what it requires for citizenship?

Last I heard before I left for work at noon was it hadnt been revealed yet. I did hear speculation that citizenship would be granted for immigrants that had college degrees in math, science, etc. They would NOT be on any form of govt assistance during the time they are applying and also employers would be allowed to hire illegals if they could somehow prove that they couldnt not fill the posistions with legal workers.

I could be wrong but like I said, that is what was being speculated.

[Forever_frost]

Im glad to see something is getting done. You cant whine because they are here illegally and then whine again when they are offered citizenship and will be tax payers. If they want to be US citizens then Im all for it. If they refuse to go through the new streamlined process (whatever it may be) then piss on them and kick their sorry butts out.

Actually you can. They are committing crimes and instead of punishing them for that, you're giving them exactly what they want. It's like catching someone who is a pick pocket and then saying "You know what? You've done it so long, let me open the vault for you."

[mstng86]

What I love is all the reports I see claim there is an estimated 10 million illegals in this country. What if they are wrong? What if there are 50 million illegals in the country? I think we need to have a pay to play system. If you want be a citizen you should have to pay 50k up front and agree to be taxed at the highest tax rate for the next 10 years. If you can't or won't agree to these terms we don't want your ass here.

Ah yes, so out of the 10 million(or 50 million) of them, how many do you think have 50k sitting around. maybe .001%

[Craizie]

Actually you can. They are committing crimes and instead of punishing them for that, you're giving them exactly what they want. It's like catching someone who is a pick pocket and then saying "You know what? You've done it so long, let me open the vault for you."

Know how much money it would cost to round all of them up and deport them? The only reasonable option is to make them all citizens and the shut the borders down. Completely. Start enforcing strict punishments for any undocumented person after x amount of time.

[Forever_frost]

Know how much money it would cost to round all of them up and deport them? The only reasonable option is to make them all citizens and the shut the borders down. Completely. Start enforcing strict punishments for any undocumented person after x amount of time.

Not nearly as much as it costs to jail and feed and house and educate them. And when they're deported, make sure they see you mining the border. Any illegals caught after 30 days beyond the "Leave By Date" is locked up in Alcatraz. Family and all.

[FreightTrain]

Ah yes, so out of the 10 million(or 50 million) of them, how many do you think have 50k sitting around. maybe .001%

My point exactly. GTFO We got enough broke dicks in this country already that love to suck on the welfare tit. If you're a business owner, educated, and can support yourself and your family by all means write the check and welcome to America.

[mikec]

Has anyone actually read what it requires for citizenship?

Fuck, really? The cocksuckers that are voting on it won't have read it when they pass it.

You are correct. I think that this bill has provisions for that, and if they don't want to be citizens, they will leave.

If they don't leave now, what would poke them hard in enough in the ass then to make them do so?

Nothing.

[Vertnut]

Fuck, really? The cocksuckers that are voting on it won't have read it when they pass it.



If they don't leave now, what would poke them hard in enough in the ass then to make them do so?

Nothing.

We don't know...yet. Besides, who would be roofing for you?

[KBScobravert]

Has anyone actually read what it requires for citizenship?

I work with people who are other country nationals and have become US citizens. One gal in my office is from Bosnia, married a US Citizen and she is a green card holder. She is trying to get her citizenship right now. It is a fairly lengthy process and there is quite a bit of book work involved. Of course all the people that I work with that have earned their citizenship are EARNERS making six figure incomes and contribute to society.

They have all agreed that if the current admin just strokes a pen and alakazam everyone is an American they will be pissed. Not that anyone cares though.

For the record they are Pakastani, Bosnian, Macedonian, Afghani.

[Moose242]

Plenty of room here in Australia for you guys.

Immigrate here to avoid the issues of immigration in the USA.

[line-em-up]

I see a tidal wave of illegals crossing the Rio Grande in the next few months until they close off the border. The border will be closed....never. So, you can see what effect the reform is going to have.