Choose your own Crime stats

[GhostTX]

[Baba Ganoush]

Well said. He gets it.

[Sgt Beavis]

**golf clap**

[Sgt Beavis]

Just looking through the FBI's statistics myself..

In 2011, there were 12664 murders in the US. There were 6220 handguns involved in those murders. 323 RIFLES were used compared to 356 Shotguns..

728 used no weapon at all. Just hands, feet, fists, pushing, etc....

One statistic I'm looking for. Of the weapons used in these murders, how many of those weapons were illegally obtained by current laws.

[Downs]

IIRC weren't they lumping self defense and police involved shootings in with the "homicides"?

[JamisonFRC]

IIRC weren't they lumping self defense and police involved shootings in with the "homicides"?

Yes. They are "justifiable" homicides. But counted as homicides none the less.

[DON SVO]

Yes. They are "justifiable" homicides. But counted as homicides none the less.

In that case, wouldn't self-defense shoots be included? Love skewed stats.

[JamisonFRC]

In that case, wouldn't self-defense shoots be included? Love skewed stats.

Yes. I've seen so many videos on this lately I cannot remember if he touches on the fact that in England if it is a multi casualty killing it is reported as one homicide. Not two, three or however many were killed. I have not verified that but it was pointed out in a video.

[Sgt Beavis]

The table I'm looking at isn't labeled homicide but Murder..

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-20

[stevo]

The table I'm looking at isn't labeled homicide but Murder..

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr...ables/table-20

LOL at it showing Illinois as having less than half of the murders in Texas.

Stevo

[Sgt Beavis]

LOL at it showing Illinois as having less than half of the murders in Texas.

Stevo

Illinois had 452 murders. Of those, 433 were in Chicago's city limits..

https://portal.chicagopolice.org/portal/page/portal/ClearPath/News/Statistical%20Reports/Murder%20Reports/MA11.pdf

Chicago had over 500 murders in 2012.

Also, Illinois has only one major metro area with a population over 250K. That is Chicago with about 2.7million people. The suburbs around Chicago are the bulk of their larger municipalities but none of them are even close to 250K.

Texas has NINE municipalities with populations over 250K.

Houston 2,099,451
San Antonio 1,327,407
Dallas 1,197,816
Austin 790,390
Fort Worth 741,206
El Paso 649,121
Arlington 365,438
Corpus Christi 305,215
Plano 259,841

Houston had 198 homicides in 2011.
San Antonio had 89
Dallas had 133
Austin had 28

I pulled these from http://www.city-data.com/city/Texas.html

Obviously the murder rate throughout the rest of Illinois is vastly lower but it is also much more sparsely populated. Coincidentally (or not) it is also much more politically conservative.

[Sgt Beavis]

Found this.. Just for comparison to Illinois.

The Murder/Manslaughter rates for Illinois is 5.6 per 100000 people in 2011..
The Murder/Manslaughter rates for Texas is 4.4 per 100000 people.. which was a drop from 2010.
The national Murder/Manslaughter rate is 4.7 per 100000 people..

The state with the lowest rate is Hawaii with 1.2 (so why do the Hawaii Five-0 guys appear so busy?)
New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and Vermont all had a rate of 1.3

The state with the highest rate is Louisiana with 11.2 (there goes my home state again.. getting 1st place for the wrong things)

The District of Columbia's rate is 17.5 (with the strongest gun control laws in the country)

BTW, stay the fuck away from Puerto Rico. The rate is 30.6 WTF?!?!

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-4