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  • #61
    Originally posted by BlackSnake View Post
    You are gambling now? These fucking dumbass's that are doing this shit (for the most part) are mentally ill. Do you think they give a shit? The dumb shits are shooting theirselves. They already plan on dying. I'm not ignorant enough to wager the lives of teachers and students on "they know some teachers carry now".

    Why are you against mandating additional training to carry in schools. I'm mean, shit, then the bad guys surly wouldn't come to schools knowing that not only do some carry, but they also now are specially trained to handle situations of this sort. Please...
    Yes, I'm gambling now. Won $80,000 in the last month in my online account!

    Re-read my post. It clearly states that the lions share of the massacres have been in gun free soft target zones. If these morons prefer gun free zones, think schools have guns, they go somewhere else. Every statistic you pull up on this subject supports that logic. It's not difficult to follow.
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    • #62
      In spite of your reasoning, houses are broken into every day. Business are robbed every day. People are mugged every day. Police officers are fired upon. I don't guess I understand your theory except In part. How many of these homes and business are armed? Pretty sure all police are. It doesn't seem to be stopping them.
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      • #63
        Originally posted by mikec View Post
        Yes, I'm gambling now. Won $80,000 in the last month in my online account!

        Re-read my post. It clearly states that the lions share of the massacres have been in gun free soft target zones. If these morons prefer gun free zones, think schools have guns, they go somewhere else. Every statistic you pull up on this subject supports that logic. It's not difficult to follow.
        Wager was your choice of words. Look at your post that you just referee me to
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        • #64
          Originally posted by BlackSnake View Post
          In spite of your reasoning, houses are broken into every day. Business are robbed every day. People are mugged every day. Police officers are fired upon. I don't guess I understand your theory except In part. How many of these homes and business are armed? Pretty sure all police are. It doesn't seem to be stopping them.
          Homes? Few as all the white people have their guns with them, at work.

          Businesses? Not sure on the stats there, as to what percentage is armed.

          Police aren't fired upon very often, and when they are it's one or two cops, not entire classrooms.

          All three of those have nothing to do with the convo.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by BlackSnake View Post
            In spite of your reasoning, houses are broken into every day. Business are robbed every day. People are mugged every day. Police officers are fired upon. I don't guess I understand your theory except In part. How many of these homes and business are armed? Pretty sure all police are. It doesn't seem to be stopping them.
            None of those are mass murder/suicides.
            "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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            • #66
              You know, I find it extremely funny that we all agree on CHL holders the right to carry in schools. For the life of me, expecially when it concerns our youth, why are we arguing. Our only difference in this subject is that I think it should require additional training. Why would you be apposed to that?
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              • #67
                Originally posted by BlackSnake View Post
                You know, I find it extremely funny that we all agree on CHL holders the right to carry in schools. For the life of me, expecially when it concerns our youth, why are we arguing. Our only difference in this subject is that I think it should require additional training. Why would you be apposed to that?
                I am not opposed to extra training. But by making it a requirement, you will drive down the number of school employees that will step up and get a CHL and take the required extra training. The more CHL holders are able to carry on campus, the greater the risk to mass murderers they will be met with an armed responce. The number is the deterent.

                You are OK with a pure stranger CHL holder doing whatever they need to keep you and yours safe anywhere that you go, but teachers are special? Your arguement is that TEACHERS need more training because it is a school. I fail to see why they need to be required to have it, while anyone anywhere else just has to pass the required CHL class and subsiquent background check.
                "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by BlackSnake View Post
                  Our only difference in this subject is that I think it should require additional training. Why would you be apposed to that?
                  Originally posted by Baron View Post
                  I am not opposed to extra training. But by making it a requirement, .
                  quit ducking his question!

                  god bless.
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                  • #69
                    Not that teachers are Amy different, but that the circumstances are different.

                    I get all the prescribed statistics. You guys are preaching to the choir.
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                    • #70
                      Arm the teachers that want to be armed. Pay for the training. Done. Read the first article in the OP. Its already being done.
                      "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by GhostTX View Post
                        Arm the teachers that want to be armed. Pay for the training. Done. Read the first article in the OP. Its already being done.
                        I would imagine they should go through a mandatory level of training and be licensed by the Texas Private Security Board. Heck it is a 40hr course for the level III and it is required in Texas for armed security. I am in no way expecting a teacher to be an armed security deterrent but I want them to have the right to carry and the knowledge to do so safely.
                        Fuck you. We're going to Costco.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by GhostTX View Post
                          Arm the teachers that want to be armed. Pay for the training. Done. Read the first article in the OP. Its already being done.
                          Yup, get the cleet certified let them carry concealed and call it a day. Giving them an allotment for the size of the school and let them do their thing and no one know who they are.

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                          • #73
                            half the teachers at my brides school are avid hunters . dont think they need training .

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by kbscobravert View Post
                              I would imagine they should go through a mandatory level of training and be licensed by the Texas Private Security Board. Heck it is a 40hr course for the level III and it is required in Texas for armed security. I am in no way expecting a teacher to be an armed security deterrent but I want them to have the right to carry and the knowledge to do so safely.
                              Amen!
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by bubbaearl View Post
                                half the teachers at my brides school are avid hunters . dont think they need training .
                                Sorry, hunting is not in the same category.
                                Just sayin. At least they are fimiliar with...guns.
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