Gun Control Solutions

[dee]

I haven't read any of the other posts but I would suggest that every owner of a registered fire arm should complete a psychological exam or some type of continuing education (CE) every X year(s) to verify mental stability or what have you. You fail to complete your CE, your firearm becomes eligible to be confiscated. After more time passes and your obligations have not yet been met, your property will be seized. I'm pretty sure that'll weed out the deadbeats and point out the crazies. I can't see nothing wrong with this idea, unless something similar already exists. Chl folks have to maintain a license right? Just make everyone who owns a firearm have to do something similar.

More people are killed with cars do you recommend the same for anyone in possession of a drivers license?

[A+]

More people are killed with cars do you recommend the same for anyone in possession of a drivers license?

HELL YEAH! You cant tell me you havent see some old folks behind the wheel, knowing GD well they shouldnt be. Why do you think all these old geezers are hogging up all the amber alerts?! If i had to take a test every so many years for my DL, i would. Same way i would have showed my ID if required to vote.

[ceyko]

I haven't read any of the other posts but I would suggest that every owner of a registered fire arm should complete a psychological exam or some type of continuing education (CE) every X year(s) to verify mental stability or what have you. You fail to complete your CE, your firearm becomes eligible to be confiscated. After more time passes and your obligations have not yet been met, your property will be seized. I'm pretty sure that'll weed out the deadbeats and point out the crazies. I can't see nothing wrong with this idea, unless something similar already exists. Chl folks have to maintain a license right? Just make everyone who owns a firearm have to do something similar.

Just a few areas where it can be all f'ed up.

1. Who determines a proper eval for a gun owner?
2. Would someone who thinks the eval is bullshit be ineligible?
3. Who is going to pay for it? Taxpayers or another bullshit cost on to the gun owner?
4. If a person is deemed ineligible, what happens to their guns?
...so on and so forth.

If something like this is done, EVERY American would have to be pushed to this - because there are thousands of ways to kill, mass kill...etc.

Guess what, only good folks would do it. Criminals would have no interest. It's a rabbit hole that should never be considered. Honestly, I think any gun control is a rabbit hole we'll never be able to climb out of.

[dee]

HELL YEAH! You cant tell me you havent see some old folks behind the wheel, knowing GD well they shouldnt be. Why do you think all these old geezers are hogging up all the amber alerts?! If i had to take a test every so many years for my DL, i would. Same way i would have showed my ID if required to vote.

Yet more accidents/wrecks are caused by the 16-20 age group, of which had just passed and been approved by the government to drive.

[A+]

Just a few areas where it can be all f'ed up.

1. Who determines a proper eval for a gun owner?
2. Would someone who thinks the eval is bullshit be ineligible?
3. Who is going to pay for it? Taxpayers or another bullshit cost on to the gun owner?
4. If a person is deemed ineligible, what happens to their guns?
...so on and so forth.

If something like this is done, EVERY American would have to be pushed to this - because there are thousands of ways to kill, mass kill...etc.

Guess what, only good folks would do it. Criminals would have no interest. It's a rabbit hole that should never be considered. Honestly, I think any gun control is a rabbit hole we'll never be able to climb out of.

1. Whomever is in charge of all the CHL stuff i guess.
2. Sure, sometimes i think voting is BS but i do it anyway....for the lulz
3. Probably another Bs cost i guess.
4. This should be a new thing, starting soon. Maybe they get grandfathered in or some bs.
Im just suggesting that all gun purchases should be handled as if one was trying to obtain a CHL. I agree that it is a rabbit hole but we gotta start somewhere i guess. Fyi, i dont own a firearm only because i think theyre expensive and im not THAT into them but if that your thing, cool. I dont know how the whole gun purchasing thing goes but it seems like it would be easy to get one. I found out last week that i have a warrant out for my arrest in FB and Garland. Will that show when i apply for a CHL or try to purchase a firearm? Would it say the type of warrants i have? I wouldnt buy one anyway cause im poor, just wondering.

[A+]

Yet more accidents/wrecks are caused by the 16-20 age group, of which had just passed and been approved by the government to drive.

Thats because young people are idiots. If you require special glasses to drive or your arthritis inhibits you from gripping a steering wheel or youre going senile, you probably should be driving.

[ELVIS]

so i cant go to work everyday pay my own way and own my guns that have never harmed anyone according to the gov't, but folks can lay around smoke weed all day and get paid for it buy the gov't? fuck you.

god bless.

[A+]

when a couple rotten apples keeps ruining the bunch, its easier to just get rid of the damn tree.......wait...yeah. i think. Im not trying to get rid of yalls damn guns. I dont care really but i know a couple of bad guys who own a few and a crazy, on psych meds, lady who owns guns and buys one every chance she gets and i feel like they should own a firearm. Personally, i want an RPG, or does that not count as a Bear arm?

[Nash B.]

Just because it's easier doesn't make it right.

[SS Junk]

when a couple rotten apples keeps ruining the bunch, its easier to just get rid of the damn tree.......wait...yeah.

Yeah... No.
This reminds me of a FB debate when someone stated "ban all guns or don't ban any at all. California has some of the strictest gun laws in the country yet is neighbored with a state that allows the carrying of a firearm without a permit..."
So say all guns are banned/outlawed/taken away nation wide. What's going to happen when the US is bordered with a country that has some of the worst gun crimes in the world... That logic is just fucking retarded.

[BERNIE MOSFET]

1. Whomever is in charge of all the CHL stuff i guess.
2. Sure, sometimes i think voting is BS but i do it anyway....for the lulz
3. Probably another Bs cost i guess.
4. This should be a new thing, starting soon. Maybe they get grandfathered in or some bs.
Im just suggesting that all gun purchases should be handled as if one was trying to obtain a CHL. I agree that it is a rabbit hole but we gotta start somewhere i guess. Fyi, i dont own a firearm only because i think theyre expensive and im not THAT into them but if that your thing, cool. I dont know how the whole gun purchasing thing goes but it seems like it would be easy to get one. I found out last week that i have a warrant out for my arrest in FB and Garland. Will that show when i apply for a CHL or try to purchase a firearm? Would it say the type of warrants i have? I wouldnt buy one anyway cause im poor, just wondering.

You guess?

You want more control, but you don't know how you'd like to see it done. When we start to dig into it, real limitations and issues with practicability become apparent.

Firearms aren't expensive (some are), you've just never justified the expense. It isn't a necessary tool to you. That's fine. Getting one from an FFL still requires a check not dissimilar to CHL process, read about it here: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics

The "loophole" is the lack of background checks on a private, face to face transaction. Closing this effectively would, at a minimum, require all firearms be registered. Afterall, how can you enforce something that there are no records for. Have you EVER reported sales tax to the state from a private sale of anything?

There are millions of firearms and no official registry - just FFL records. Even if all firearms were accounted for, stolen weapons go off the books no matter what. Someone with criminal intent is going to get one of these weapons, not one that is registered. Someone with the intent to massacre/suicide is perfectly fine with the weapons registered to them.

Before advocating gun control measures that make people feel good, consider how effective they will be. Human nature doesn't abide laws very well. Human nature abides real consequences. You'd pay those sales taxes if you thought you wouldn't get away with it. Now you know how criminals operate with firearms.

[A+]

twas' merely a suggestion. You guys can rally outside city hall shooting off your assault rifles everytime the Cowboys lose or someone speaks ill of your god, for all i care. Like i said, im not into guns but you guys and thats cool too. I hope whatever laws change, it all works out for you guys. Viva la revolucion!!

[DON SVO]

This is how I put it all together in my head:

In 2010:

11,048 homicides were committed with firearms as a whole.
BUT:
32,788 people died in traffic accidents.
10,228 of those fatalities were caused by drunk driving.
Only eleven school shooting deaths occurred in 2010.

Those numbers (overall shooting murder vs. drunk driving murder) are almost identical.

We see commercial after commercial after billboard after radio ad slamming drunk drivers. While some of us feel that MADD (as an example) is a bit overzealous, they are actually going after the real problem. The drunk behind the wheel. You don't see hardly ANY ads laying into Coors or Jack Daniel's or Grey Goose for selling "evil alcohol". Why? They all have tons of "drink responsibly" tags and voice-overs, for starters. Even still, we as a society have become able to step over the boundary that lets us blame the drinker and not the company producing the drink. We don't have prohibition again.

So how do we bridge that gap with firearms producers and the nut jobs that kill kids? I'm about positive that more 5-10 year old kids died this year at the hands of a drunk driver as opposed to the Sandy Hook killer.

[dee]

Thats because young people are idiots. If you require special glasses to drive or your arthritis inhibits you from gripping a steering wheel or youre going senile, you probably should be driving.

Those idiots still passed the government requirements. Glad those strict standards helped prevent wrecks.

[SS Junk]

Those numbers (overall shooting murder vs. drunk driving murder) are almost identical.

The left will tell you not to look at this with a bunch of facts/figures/numbers.