Gun Control Solutions

[grove rat]

people that think "gun control" works, are the problem

[YALE]

What makes it a National Problem? It feels like a problem to me. I don't want to wait for it to happen in all 50 states before it is a national problem. There are around 100k public schools in America http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=84. I don't see it as crazy to think we could put someone to protect people in each one. I know that many schools have an officer already so I don't see a problem with it.

You seriously want to pay for another 100k cops in this country? What does the average cop make in America? $60k+? You're an idiot if you think that's the solution. I'd rather put money towards mental health screening, but the idea that we need to legislate an already declining problem is just stupid. As a statistical problem, gun violence is clearly the exception, not the norm. Why make a rule for people that make it a point to circumvent rules? Is gun violence the number one preventable cause of death amongst children? Your screen name is, "LiveFreeOrDie," you dumbass bucket of fuck.

[big_tiger]

There is no way any decent (that doesn't hinder my rights) legislation will ever get passed nationally. Good stuff said in here, so I wont repeat anything. It is just crazy how all this happens in zones that say you can't have guns. Jesus can't they read fucking signs???

[LiveFreeOrDie]

You seriously want to pay for another 100k cops in this country? What does the average cop make in America? $60k+? You're an idiot if you think that's the solution. I'd rather put money towards mental health screening, but the idea that we need to legislate an already declining problem is just stupid. As a statistical problem, gun violence is clearly the exception, not the norm. Why make a rule for people that make it a point to circumvent rules? Is gun violence the number one preventable cause of death amongst children? Your screen name is, "LiveFreeOrDie," you dumbass bucket of fuck.

Get over yourself thinking you have all the right answers and no one else can bring ideas to the table.

edit:What does my screen name have to do with wanting security in schools? That has nothing to do with freedom. You would spend money on mental illness screening which would cost way more than more security for schools.

[ceyko]

1. I think ADULTS who are properly licensed/following state law for guns should be able to carry at schools. Not just stuff that makes the news, but plenty of adults are working in these thuggish areas until the early morning and it can be nerve racking leaving.

2. There are A LOT of schools in the area with armed police. If any of you have been to them, you'd most likely agree they'd be worthless against a determined killer. Most of them I see, seem real good at talking down to the student population and would probably shit themselves against a person pulling the trigger.

3. I strongly agree with severe/nasty punishments for these sort of things. That WOULD be a good step towards determent.

[Broncojohnny]

I think a really good first step is allowing the principal and/or adminsitration officials at the school to have access to a gun that is kept in a secure location. That along with a policy that it only comes out when there is an active shooter on campus. Not a threat, but someone with a gun.

[stang]

Anyone over the age of 21 and working at a public property is required to carry a gun. So the people in that administration office could of got off a couple of shots at the guy before he went into that classroom.

[brandon01rt]

I think certain qualified people in the school need to CONCEAL carry. The teachers and staff need to take more than a standard CHL course to be qualified to have a weapon in the school. The students will not know which teachers have the weapons but they will be there. Also, metal detectors are a great idea and I like the way the state fair handles their entrances. Everyone has to walk past metal detectors and the teachers have a special chl entrance.

[big_tiger]

1. I think ADULTS who are properly licensed/following state law for guns should be able to carry at schools. Not just stuff that makes the news, but plenty of adults are working in these thuggish areas until the early morning and it can be nerve racking leaving.

2. There are A LOT of schools in the area with armed police. If any of you have been to them, you'd most likely agree they'd be worthless against a determined killer. Most of them I see, seem real good at talking down to the student population and would probably shit themselves against a person pulling the trigger.

3. I strongly agree with severe/nasty punishments for these sort of things. That WOULD be a good step towards determent.

I agree with 1.

2. The first person they would kill is the armed cop. Fear of the unknown is a great deterrent. How about 10% of every school's faculty have a chl. Could be the principle, or the cafeteria lady.

3. Do you think these people care about punishment? They go there to die.

[Sean88gt]

Solutions.....relinquish NOTHING in terms of freedom to the government. What happened is a shitty deal, but fuck those scanvengers in DC for even thinking about raping us.

You can't regulate being an asshole.

[Broncojohnny]

You can't really have something that requires school teachers to carry, there are a lot of scared old ladies in that profession who can't handle a gun.

[samuel642000]

Put a Military Policemen in each school in America. Make it an assignment. They are trained to protect and do active shooter drills a lot. Lets take some of these guys we are waisting training retards over seas and stick them in our schools, so the last thing our precious children see is some emo shit stain firing a gun at them.

I've been around MP's (majority were E5 and E6) that I had to give training to on how to clean an M4. I wouldn't trust MP's to keep me safe, much less my baby.

[YALE]

Get over yourself thinking you have all the right answers and no one else can bring ideas to the table.

edit:What does my screen name have to do with wanting security in schools? That has nothing to do with freedom. You would spend money on mental illness screening which would cost way more than more security for schools.

I'm saying that it's ironic that you have that screen name, and are clammoring for more federal oversight. I'm also saying that if you're dead set on adding it, why not make it pro-active, rather than reactive?

EDIT: You know what really bugs me about this whole thing? The idea that we need to be protected from every percieved threat. Not just this, but any threat anywhere. I think it's bullshit. We're not fucking cattle. We don't need to be herded around by shepherds we put in place over ourselves. We should face life head on, and embrace its challenges.

[bucky]

This shooting and most before it have nothing to do with gun control and everything to do with mental health issues and people falling thru the cracks and not being able to get the help they need. The problem will get worse as more soldiers return from combat with PTSD and can't find the help they need. But let the libs keep screaming about "assault" weapons and extended magazines while ignoring the real problems.

[Lason]

Although Im the belief of that the more people who conceal carry the safer the general populas is, I dont think forcing teachers to carry is the answer. All your doing is providing possible access to weapons to large groups of kids. All it will take is one screw up by a teacher and one kid who is hormonal and unhappy about something.

I think the best answer in this case is coming up with a better system to keep people out during school hours. What they had was decent but obviously easily beaten because they relied on simple glass to keep someone out.