Gun Control Solutions

[Tx Redneck]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdkiLC06Nso&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Saved and Texan by the Grace of God, Redneck by choice.

[mikec]

In other news, our fearless leader is scheduled to appear in the WH briefing room to make some sort of admin policy review announcement at 11:45ET. Stay tuned...

He will announce the new board headed by Biden to review guns and implement action.

The train is pulling out of the station.

[SS Junk]

In other news, our fearless leader is scheduled to appear in the WH briefing room to make some sort of admin policy review announcement at 11:45ET. Stay tuned...

[jdgregory84]

Now my point isn't to go back in time 200 years. It's to accept that this shit happens, and work on a way to minimize the disasters. You can't completely prevent them.

[jdgregory84]

Not sure if anybody has brought up this crazy idea but you can't completely prevent shit like this. You can do the best that you can to prevent it, but regardless, it will happen. Ban guns, they use knives, ban knives, they use anything else!

In all honesty, the best way to minimize shit like this is shut off the internet, cut all phone lines, and get rid of television. Again, there's no way to avoid shit like this completely, but if you minimize connection to the outside world, you minimize how many people telling assholes that they are victims.

We used to live in a world where we had problems and we dealt with them in similar ways, yet those ways were a LOT harder...and in a lot of cases, too hard for people to fuck with.

[Forever_frost]

I don't want him banned. He won't learn.

Anyone taking my weapons I have two questions for you and I would like John to answer:

1. Are you going to be writing me a check for said items?

2. Are you going to be signing a contract that binds you to my safety financially? You're removing my ability to protect myself and my property so you are going to take responsibility, right?

[Jester]

John shouldnt be banned. We argue about defending our rights.......well, he has the right to his opinion no matter how wrong it may actually be.

[Forever_frost]

John, are you going to be paying me MSRP for my weapons that your Gestapo steals from me or using some other formula? Where are you going to be getting the money to pay for the thousands of dollars I have invested in my weapons?

[mikec]

John needs to be locked up! Stat!

[Forever_frost]

Its a side effect for some but not for all, and I will say not even most. I think the psychological impact of going from combat and structured living to unstructured civilian living is one of the biggest impacts. While a discussion mental health is important I think the more pressing situation is addressing how it relates to firearms and what should be done before the morons get a chance to pass a permanent AWB, hicap mag ban, and a possible ban on 'military' cal ammo and weapon sales to civilians.

Do you have a degree in psychology? Do you have PTSD? Have you ever even been in the military? IF not, you have no idea what the fuck you're saying. Read some of these drugs. Suicidal depression is a possible side effect on a lot of them. I am almost done with my masters in psychology and using the DSM 5, I can diagnose you right now, as a danger to yourself and others, merely by your posts. And could testify to that and I could even give you a set of psych tests that would back me up 100%

[Forever_frost]

So are you a threat to society? were you ever a threat to society? If no then none of what I proposed would have happened. No body would have advised you that having a firearm easily available to you is not a good thing and that you should probably consider your well being over your safety, and you may want to store the weapons at someplace that isnt within minutes of your houshold so a wrongful impulse doesnt impact the well being of everybody.

You see that advisement didnt take your weapons, it didnt take any rights away, nobody is taking your bank, your car, or your livelihood, and it may inspire you to look after your well being. just because a police officer talks to you doesnt mean bad shit has to happen.

I suggested the the temporary seizure as way to motivate the household into taking care of their own. But if somebody is that negligent that after they have been advised of the threat to society and they dont take care of it what is society to do at that point, just wait for another shooting?

Actually, I had 3 shrinks tell me to get rid of my weapons so I stopped seeing them. There are bad shrinks who will diagnose you with exactly what the VA tells them to. You have vets coming back the VA refuses to diagnose with PTSD and some that due to prescribed medications, are being locked in mental installations no longer allowed to defend themselves with weapons they bought.

You didn't answer me. What are you willing to hand over to the police because you MAY injure someone with? How about your car? Surely you don't need that. Do you know how many people get killed by autos every year?

You suggest a seizure of my property by someone who I don't authorize to take it. So tell me. During this time that you seize my weapons and my household is broken into an my son and wife injured because now, I am unable to defend them, do I hold you personally liable? Are you willing to sign a contract that says because you stole my equipment from me, you are liable for damages or injuries sustained that could have been prevented by the weapons you stole?

[Forever_frost]

Mostly due to the fact that the meds they are put on have a side effect of suicide ideation. That is why i tried to off myself. I would go into see the shrink and tell her i was suicidal cuz of the meds.....she would up the dose thinking that would help......it pushed me to kill myself.
The vets are following doctors orders for these meds and it is killing them, when in all reality what they really need is some damned good weed and a serious vacation.

The depakote the shrinks put me on initially made me violent, angry and then massively depressed. Considered eating my .500

[Jester]

Just curious John , have you ever had any experience talking to a shrink ?
You do know most are not real doctors right ?

I ask you this not because the rest of your so called ideas are fucking stupid, but because all of them are based on this being reliable.
To which , virtually everyone in the US knows they are not , or we wouldn't call them shrinks.
Hope that helps you learn yourself to go and tread on a different groups rights.
Good luck with those failed lines of reasoning

[futant]

Just curious John , have you ever had any experience talking to a shrink ?
You do know most are not real doctors right ?

I ask you this not because the rest of your so called ideas are fucking stupid, but because all of them are based on this being reliable.
To which , virtually everyone in the US knows they are not , or we wouldn't call them shrinks.
Hope that helps you learn yourself to go and tread on a different groups rights.
Good luck with those failed lines of reasoning

[John -- '02 HAWK]

Mostly due to the fact that the meds they are put on have a side effect of suicide ideation.

Its a side effect for some but not for all, and I will say not even most. I think the psychological impact of going from combat and structured living to unstructured civilian living is one of the biggest impacts. While a discussion mental health is important I think the more pressing situation is addressing how it relates to firearms and what should be done before the morons get a chance to pass a permanent AWB, hicap mag ban, and a possible ban on 'military' cal ammo and weapon sales to civilians.