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    On Jan. 1, 2013, the estate tax is set to climb to as high as 55 percent --- among the highest in the world economy.


    This content is provided by the Americans for Tax Reform Foundation. Current Law The 2001 tax relief bill (EGTRRA), drastically reduced the impact of the death tax over the course of a decade, so that it was eliminated entirely for one year in 2010 — a good year to die,…



    Death tax increasing to 55%. This is unbelievable. You die, the government gets over half of your shit. They are desperately trying to end generational wealth. Imagine being a farmer with over $1,000,000 worth of land and assets. When you die, the gubment steps in and takes your land to auction off if you cant pay them in cold hard cash. That is fucking bullshit to the nth degree.




    On Jan. 1, 2013, the estate tax is set to climb to as high as 55 percent — among the highest in the world economy — with the exclusion rate dropping to just $1 million, making 2013 a bad year to die for small businesses owners and the wealthy.

    The estate tax — often called the death tax — had been on the decline due to the Bush tax cuts, even reaching zero in 2010. Since then, it has risen back to 35 percent, with an $5 million exclusion, where it remains today.

    As blogged by conservative organization Americans for Tax Reform (ATR), research by the Urban Institute and Brooking Institution’s Tax Policy Center says that “if the current death tax expires, then the resulting, stricter exemption threshold will force 114,600 estates to file for the tax in 2013 — this represents a 13-fold increase from the previous year’s 8,800 estates, and countless wasted hours filling out tax paperwork. Of that cohort, an unfortunate 52,500 will be liable for the tax, way up from 3,300.”

    While the tax would only affect 2 percent of the American population, ATR points out that its impact is far broader, is “it causes many wealthy individuals to save less, choosing instead to retire early or, as Milton Friedman put it, ‘dissipate their wealth on high living.’”

    “This reduction in savings,” the report continues, ”means a concomitant reduction in investment, lessening the flow of capital to businesses and organizations where countless ordinary Americans are employed.”

    The estate tax has been under assault over the past year. Most recently, a coalition of non-profit groups and conservative Republican lawmakers has pushed for permanently repealing the estate tax — and putting politicians of both parties on the record as to whether they support full repeal.

    There are 217 co-sponsors for a bill to end the estate tax in Congress, with a 218th, The Daily Caller has learned, expected soon. Republican leadership, however, has appeared hesitant. (RELATED: Lawmakers, activists ratchet up pressure on GOP leaders for full ‘death tax’ repeal)

    “In addition to the vote to extend current tax policy this month — which we fully support — our coalition of industry groups, the freshman class, and a large contingent of Republican Study Committee members are requesting that House leadership call a vote on Congressman [Kevin] Brady’s bill to fully repeal the death tax this fall,” Schoening Strategies President and Family Business Coalition Chairman Palmer Schoening told TheDC.

    The Family Business Coalition is a coalition of policy and industry groups opposed to the estate tax. One member — the 60 Plus Association, has already poured millions of dollars into ad buys in swing states this election cycle, pushing back against Obamacare and other laws it says are negatively affecting its members.

    “60 Plus is gearing up to make death tax repeal a key issue in major Senate and House races across the country through ad buys and televised campaign events,” 60 Plus Chairman Jim Martin told The Daily Caller earlier this week. “We are currently mobilizing over 7 million seniors to call for a vote on Congressman Brady’s ‘Death Tax Repeal Permanency Act of 2011′ to put House members on the record for the first time since 2006. Our seniors believe Republicans should always vote to kill the death tax, not wound it.”
    Originally posted by lincolnboy
    After watching Games of Thrones, makes me glad i was not born in those years.

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    so give away all your stuff under the table

    got it

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    • #3
      [ ] Surprised you'd be up in arms over a "generational wealth" tax
      [X] Not surprised you'd be up in arms over a "generational wealth" tax

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      • #4
        Originally posted by dville_gt View Post
        [ ] Surprised you'd be up in arms over a "generational wealth" tax
        [X] Not surprised you'd be up in arms over a "generational wealth" tax
        You support the confiscation and redistribution of lawfully earned wealth?
        Originally posted by lincolnboy
        After watching Games of Thrones, makes me glad i was not born in those years.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by dville_gt View Post
          [ ] Surprised you'd be up in arms over a "generational wealth" tax
          [X] Not surprised you'd be up in arms over a "generational wealth" tax
          Everyone should be. My parents aren't wealthy, but they have assets, and I'd prefer not to be in a situation where I'm forced to liquidate everything, just to give the government 55% of items they've already received tax on.

          So what this does is to create situations of creativity to circumvent bullshit taxes.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by dville_gt View Post
            [ ] Surprised you'd be up in arms over a "generational wealth" tax
            [X] Not surprised you'd be up in arms over a "generational wealth" tax
            Lmao. That said, all taxes are bullshit.
            Originally posted by BradM
            But, just like condoms and women's rights, I don't believe in them.
            Originally posted by Leah
            In other news: Brent's meat melts in your mouth.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DOHCTR View Post
              You support the confiscation and redistribution of lawfully earned wealth?
              No, I just found it amusing that you posted this.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sean88gt View Post
                Everyone should be. My parents aren't wealthy, but they have assets, and I'd prefer not to be in a situation where I'm forced to liquidate everything, just to give the government 55% of items they've already received tax on.

                So what this does is to create situations of creativity to circumvent bullshit taxes.
                I'm almost to the point where I "own" everything of my parents.
                "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government"

                -- Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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                • #9
                  I dont have a dog in that fight but it still rubs me wrong. Kinda like sales tax on used cars. They get taxed over and over. You pay taxes on everything, then they tax you for having it when you die.
                  "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Sean88gt View Post
                    Everyone should be. My parents aren't wealthy, but they have assets, and I'd prefer not to be in a situation where I'm forced to liquidate everything, just to give the government 55% of items they've already received tax on.

                    So what this does is to create situations of creativity to circumvent bullshit taxes.
                    This. It doesn't take an ungodly amount of money/assets to trigger estate tax without the $5mm exclusion.

                    And yes, this does provide CPAs and attorneys with an even larger estate tax planning base to work with.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Slowhand View Post
                      This. It doesn't take an ungodly amount of money/assets to trigger estate tax without the $5mm exclusion.
                      My dad and his 2 brothers were given some land in Bullhead City, AZ when my grandpa passed away. The g'ment shows up and tells them what their estimated taxes were BASED ON FUTURE VALUE of the land. It was around 3000 acres, and my grandpa had been acquiring it since the 50's. The irs put a presumptive value of 2x,xxx,xxx dollars on the land stating it would be worth that much IF it went commercial. After fighting it for a year, they were out of cash to continue with the fight and ended up signing over the property just to avoid bankruptcy. We currently have some family property and I've been pushing for it to go into a trust as I don't feel like being forced into a family fight with my cousins in the not so distant future.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DOHCTR View Post
                        You support the confiscation and redistribution of lawfully earned wealth?
                        You didn't build that. Someone else made that happen.

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                        • #13
                          Yep itll put me out of business if my dad dies.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sean88gt View Post
                            My dad and his 2 brothers were given some land in Bullhead City, AZ when my grandpa passed away. The g'ment shows up and tells them what their estimated taxes were BASED ON FUTURE VALUE of the land. It was around 3000 acres, and my grandpa had been acquiring it since the 50's. The irs put a presumptive value of 2x,xxx,xxx dollars on the land stating it would be worth that much IF it went commercial. After fighting it for a year, they were out of cash to continue with the fight and ended up signing over the property just to avoid bankruptcy. We currently have some family property and I've been pushing for it to go into a trust as I don't feel like being forced into a family fight with my cousins in the not so distant future.
                            Does anyone know how much trust actually shield shit from the government?
                            "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government"

                            -- Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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                            • #15
                              I am Robert's relentless teenage angst.

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