RMV Worker Charged In Illegal Immigrant License Scam

[Forever_frost]

Actually no. I believe if someone is stealing your identity, especially because cops don't like to actually do anything, you should be protected civilly and from criminal charges if you decide to seek retribution from these criminals. Bullet in the face solves a lot of things

As far as your comparison to the death penalty not slowing murder, that's actually not true. It's 100% effective in it's case. And you're also able to kill someone trying to kill you. Carries on here. Someone is taking your livelihood, you can take their lives.

[Forever_frost]

Yeah, the Death Penalty sure has slowed down the murder rates in TX... [/sarcasm].

Rapists may get long sentences, but they don't serve it all, and the newest data I can find on sentencing is from 92. But obviously punishment isn't stiff enough, when one in eight women in TX are victims of rape.


You fucking lunatics just want to shoot anyone and everyone that doesn't fit in to your mold, and I have to say, it's pretty hilarious. Now I'll sit back and wait on you to call me a dumbshit liberal. You're all so predictable.

I'm not wanting to shoot anyone and everyone. I've not shot someone since 04 despite having justifiable reasons to do so. Want to try again?

[racrguy]

I'm not wanting to shoot anyone and everyone. I've not shot someone since 04 despite having justifiable reasons to do so. Want to try again?

You want the power to shoot anyone, just not everyone. Take that backwards ass thinking to a less civilized society, it has no place in the "modern world"

[bcoop]

Someone is taking your livelihood, you can take their lives.

There is not a single factual statement in your entire post. Not one.


EDIT: you did say you can kill someone who is trying to kill you. That's true. I missed that.


As to the sentence I quoted, what's next? Shoot your boss who treats you unfairly? Shoot your lazy coworker who is taking extra shifts? Shoot your subordinates who are too stupid to breathe? You always like to make the gay marriage argument to people marrying animals next. I'm just making the same comparison.


I'd love to hear your "justifiable reasons" to kill people. I'm sorry, someone doing you a fucking favor, and mowing your grass because you're too goddamned lazy to do it yourself is not a "justifiable reason."

[Forever_frost]

Racr: No, I want the power to protect myself and family. There's a saying in the military, you do what your collar can handle. It's something I consider in every action. If I'm willing to face the consequences of my actions, then I am free to engage in them.

BCoop: No, your boss isn't stealing your life. You are free to get another job if you do not like him or her and you are completely free to enter into a contract with them to perform labor in exchange for pay. You do not enter into a relationship with an identity thief. If you have a security based job, they can cost you that job. They can also saddle you with debt you don't own, result in home repossession due to them taking out second and third mortgages that you did not agree to, steal from your bank accounts, your retirement benefits and destroy your life.

All I'm saying is even the playing field.

You'd hate my list of justifiable reasons to kill people. It's fairly short but again, I lack authority to punish anyone but those that directly threaten my life. You're also forgetting I didn't threaten to shoot him. I went and offered him a meal, offered to pay him, offered to settle a debt I was under the impression existed. It'd be similar to you coming home and find me in your living room with equipment. You aren't sure why I'm there, you didn't authorize me to be there but I'm cleaning things up for you.

Would your first thought be "Hey, good job. Would you like a beer?"

[krazy kris]

Give the victim a gun and let them take a shot at the criminal or a rope and hang the pos in a public place.

[bcoop]

You won't post your list, because you know you'll look like a bigger nutcase. There is only one reason to use deadly force.

Yeah, my reaction would be to thank him, and ask him what I could do to return the favor. We own 280 acres. Someone in my living room is NOT the same as someone on my property. There are a lot of reasons why someone might be on my property. There is no reason for someone to be in my living room when I'm not home.

[Forever_frost]

Ah, but that's where we're different. You have to completely ignore the no trespassing signs, the "Posted Keep Out" signs, and everything I have put up to tell people not to bother me. As I pay my payments on this land, it's my sovereign land and I decide who is and isn't welcome here. It's my first line of protection from harm and if you make it to my house, you have signed your own warrant. The gentleman in question had to cut the wire and roll back the fencing to bring his tractor in. The fact he laid the wire back is secondary. He did a good deed which he was paid to do, by someone who is authorized to use X amount of land in exchange for maintenance of the land he uses.

He did not come down my drive, did not make himself known to me nor tell me why he was here and somehow, mystifying to you, I didn't shoot him. My list is far shorter than you'd think. Just as you say there's no reason for someone to be in your home, there's no reason for someone to be in my yard. None. Even the mailman knows this. I have a gate and signage for a reason. You bypass that, your fault.

Hell, I even have this sign up:

[racrguy]

Ah, but that's where we're different. You have to completely ignore the no trespassing signs, the "Posted Keep Out" signs, and everything I have put up to tell people not to bother me. As I pay my payments on this land, it's my sovereign land and I decide who is and isn't welcome here. It's my first line of protection from harm and if you make it to my house, you have signed your own warrant. The gentleman in question had to cut the wire and roll back the fencing to bring his tractor in. The fact he laid the wire back is secondary. He did a good deed which he was paid to do, by someone who is authorized to use X amount of land in exchange for maintenance of the land he uses.

He did not come down my drive, did not make himself known to me nor tell me why he was here and somehow, mystifying to you, I didn't shoot him. My list is far shorter than you'd think. Just as you say there's no reason for someone to be in your home, there's no reason for someone to be in my yard. None. Even the mailman knows this. I have a gate and signage for a reason. You bypass that, your fault.

Hell, I even have this sign up:

lol@ you thinking that sign is effective, and thinking that your land is sovereign. If you weren't a disabled veteran you'd still have to pay taxes on that land, and if you didn't pay you could find out just how sovereign it was.

[Forever_frost]

Ah, but I am. And as long as I pay for it, it's mine. As long as the taxes are current and the mortgage company is happy, I decide who comes on it and who doesn't. It's not my fault you didn't take it upon yourself to answer the call of duty. Take that up with your recruiter.

As it stands, I'm the crazy guy who wants to be left in peace. The authorities around here respect that as do my neighbors for the most part.

[LANTIRN]

Yeah, the Death Penalty sure has slowed down the murder rates in TX... [/sarcasm].

Rapists may get long sentences, but they don't serve it all, and the newest data I can find on sentencing is from 92. But obviously punishment isn't stiff enough, when one in eight women in TX are victims of rape.


You fucking lunatics just want to shoot anyone and everyone that doesn't fit in to your mold, and I have to say, it's pretty hilarious. Now I'll sit back and wait on you to call me a dumbshit liberal. You're all so predictable.

Absolutely no way that is true. For that to be true I would have to have known several women in this state who were raped, and I don't know any, and I have a big family, not to mention friends. Don't throw bullshit statistics into this discussion.

And I never said the death penalty would prevent all cases; obviously it has never prevented all murders, but even if it does not prevent the crime it is fair retribution for fucking up someone's life.

[Forever_frost]

Absolutely no way that is true. For that to be true I would have to have known several women in this state who were raped, and I don't know any, and I have a big family, not to mention friends. Don't throw bullshit statistics into this discussion.

And I never said the death penalty would prevent all cases; obviously it has never prevented all murders, but even if it does not prevent the crime it is fair retribution for fucking up someone's life.

Said more eloquently than I wrote

[racrguy]

Allow me to filet your post point by point.

Ah, but I am. And as long as I pay for it, it's mine.

Eminent Domain says otherwise.

As long as the taxes are current and the mortgage company is happy, I decide who comes on it and who doesn't.

Try telling that to someone who has a warrant, which would be entering onto your property without your express consent.

It's not my fault you didn't take it upon yourself to answer the call of duty. Take that up with your recruiter.

A baseless assertion on your part.

As it stands, I'm the crazy guy who wants to be left in peace. The authorities around here respect that as do my neighbors for the most part.

Just because you're the crazy guy who wants to be left in peace doesn't mean that the government can't/won't completely disregard every imaginary boundary you've set up around yourself, your property, and your family.

[Forever_frost]

Allow me to retort:

Remember what I said about rights as long as you're willing to pay the price? Keep that in mind while you speak of imminent domain.

If they are here with a warrant, I recognize their authority and they have the right to be here.

Not baseless. Fact. You are bitching because Texas has decided that sacrifice for the Republic that results in complete disability is enough of a service that up to a certain amount of land, you are exempt from taxation. I pay for my community, just differently than you.

Again, that 'imaginary boundary' is respected by the government, requiring them to obtain a warrant to enter the gates or we can settle the dispute in a court of law where I sue for enough money to move even further away. Not quite to Australia but hey, I like the state. And once more, it goes to how much I'm willing to sacrifice and give up to protect family. I already have that limit in mind. What about you Spark Plug?

I have a decent relationship with city and county officials. Bonus to small town living.

[Vertnut]

Absolutely no way that is true. For that to be true I would have to have known several women in this state who were raped, and I don't know any, and I have a big family, not to mention friends. Don't throw bullshit statistics into this discussion.

And I never said the death penalty would prevent all cases; obviously it has never prevented all murders, but even if it does not prevent the crime it is fair retribution for fucking up someone's life.

Less than 7700 rape cases in Texas in 2010, per DPS crime stat site. Not that facts matter on this site...