When they come for your guns . . . You will turn them over

[dville_gt]

I don't have any weapons. I sold them when Obama was elected the last time.

So, where did dville go?

sleep

i just think a shit load more folks would turn over their guns when confronted by a military type force then you guys give credit for. hopefully i am wrong, even more so i hope that this is a moot point and will never happen in the first place. i agree it'd be bloody, but after talking to folks about an AR ban and hearing how many of them agree with that, its hard to imagine where that mentality stops.

[4bangen]

If you talk to people who don't own them, then you will have people who won’t fight for them.

I would like to take this time to tell my government this. I have NO guns, I am completely disarmed. So there is no reason to come to my door and ask for my guns.

[dville_gt]

If you talk to people who don't own them, then you will have people who won’t fight for them.

I would like to take this time to tell my government this. I have NO guns, I am completely disarmed. So there is no reason to come to my door and ask for my guns.

Prob not a bad idea 4bangen, but I'm sure a short search on the site could prove that untrue! I do find it odd though that the same place that has folks jumping ship to Australia, talking about how doomed we are, about increased gov control, about the majority of folks being freeloaders, etc., are so sure the country would never trample on our gun rights.


if or when the haves have enough and are forced to take the power back from the have nots how do you see the government, that is in place due to the massive number of have nots, responding?

We just learned the majority of the nation supports NDAA, SOPA, NSA, TSA, Homeland security, etc. some 60 million folks just voted for it.

[Dlachance]

Group buy on reloading machines???

[4bangen]

damn my work filter just desided this thread is about "firearms and blocked me from seeing it, dville I'll have to respond to you after work.

[SlowLX]

Oh, you aim for 'equipment', I know. What I'm saying is we can't kill Afghanis because of ROE. Does someone really think there wouldn't be hellacious ROE on our own soil?

"Aim for the button, aye aye gunny"

[BradM]

Prob not a bad idea 4bangen, but I'm sure a short search on the site could prove that untrue! I do find it odd though that the same place that has folks jumping ship to Australia, talking about how doomed we are, about increased gov control, about the majority of folks being freeloaders, etc., are so sure the country would never trample on our gun rights.


if or when the haves have enough and are forced to take the power back from the have nots how do you see the government, that is in place due to the massive number of have nots, responding?

We just learned the majority of the nation supports NDAA, SOPA, NSA, TSA, Homeland security, etc. some 60 million folks just voted for it.

They can search my cock. Not getting in my house.

[Sean88gt]

If our government is truly desiring to come after the weapons of the citizens in this country then it is driven by arrogance and an assumption that people have given up. Would everyone fight? No. But then again, there wouldn't be a full enforcement by the police or military either.

If there is a total of 5 million individuals between police and military, maybe 25% would comply with the order to go door to door. They don't have the luxury of employing guerrilla tactics because they aren't trained in that capacity and aren't fighting for their way of life. So if a mere 1% fought back, this would embolden the rest and the government would have massive problems on their hands.

So for every wannabe thug online that talks about blowing shit up there are probably 10 crazy fuckers that actually would.

[dville_gt]

If our government is truly desiring to come after the weapons of the citizens in this country then it is driven by arrogance and an assumption that people have given up. Would everyone fight? No. But then again, there wouldn't be a full enforcement by the police or military either.

If there is a total of 5 million individuals between police and military, maybe 25% would comply with the order to go door to door. They don't have the luxury of employing guerrilla tactics because they aren't trained in that capacity and aren't fighting for their way of life. So if a mere 1% fought back, this would embolden the rest and the government would have massive problems on their hands.

So for every wannabe thug online that talks about blowing shit up there are probably 10 crazy fuckers that actually would.

the only reason i don't think they'd try it is because without their tax mules (aka the haves) the gov. could no longer continue to operate (or at least not for long.

if they banned them and went out and said it was 10yrs in prison and 500k fine if caught, then offered 5k for information that leads to hidden weapons i think there would be a large number of people who would give them and/or rat.

10 years ago i'd never have thought our citizens would carry out indefinite detention without trial, but we got there. i don't disagree that it seems far fetched at this moment, but the government slowly, but surely, eases us out of our rights. this for the most part eliminates a large coordinated uprising, and allows them the upper hand.

[Sean88gt]

the only reason i don't think they'd try it is because without their tax mules (aka the haves) the gov. could no longer continue to operate (or at least not for long.

if they banned them and went out and said it was 10yrs in prison and 500k fine if caught, then offered 5k for information that leads to hidden weapons i think there would be a large number of people who would give them and/or rat.

10 years ago i'd never have thought our citizens would carry out indefinite detention without trial, but we got there. i don't disagree that it seems far fetched at this moment, but the government slowly, but surely, eases us out of our rights. this for the most part eliminates a large coordinated uprising, and allows them the upper hand.

Well, if the perception is that we have nothing to lose, then people will go off the reservation.

[Forever_frost]

So, no comment on what super body armor and weapons the military has that are high tech and not purchasable by the public? We're still using WW1 and Vietnam era weapons. Back up your statements.

[reo]

I don't think you'll get an answer on that Frost.

-Eric

[SS Junk]

That article reads like a bunch of Milquetoast faggotry. You can bet your ass just as Middle Eastern Terrorist groups have sleeper cells, so do God fearing "Christian" groups here in the States. There will be stand offs and bloodshed. Look at what Koresh did with a bunch of rag tags against the ATF.

[46Tbird]

And, to you tough-talking Neo-Cons with your AR-15 rifles and a few thousand rounds of ammo, here is reality: they will take your guns, and no, all your Second Amendment bluster aside, you are not going to do anything about it. You are not going to take on a platoon of Marines with state of the art automatic weapons and the best body armor you cannot buy protected by armed personnel carriers and attack helicopters unless you choose to die that day -- for nothing.

You will either be in the country or out, and if you are in, you will stay in and you will comply.

Actually, I disagree with this. At that point, it will be total anarchy, a revolutionary war. The images of American citizens getting blown up for defending their property and Constitutional rights is not going to be well received in this country.

[4.6coupe]

Paranoid dfw stangers?! WTF.

Never....