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Originally posted by Vertnut View PostReagan was known as "the great communicator" for several reasons. With his background as a 2-term Governor of California and president of the Actors Guild, he could reach almost everybody. He inherited a MUCH worse economic disaster than Barry did. The best thing about Reagan (IMHO) was he made us feel good about being an American, with no apologies. He and Tip O'neill got a lot of shit done, considering they were of different parties.
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Reagan was known as "the great communicator" for several reasons. With his background as a 2-term Governor of California and president of the Actors Guild, he could reach almost everybody. He inherited a MUCH worse economic disaster than Barry did. The best thing about Reagan (IMHO) was he made us feel good about being an American, with no apologies. He and Tip O'neill got a lot of shit done, considering they were of different parties.
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Originally posted by The King View PostReagan was likeable but Romney wasn't. That matters to a lot of voters.
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Originally posted by 32valves_of_pleasure View Posti'm not sure why reagan is put on a high pedestal. senile old man in his second term, iran contra and star wars (lol).
romney could have won if he played his cards right and swayed some of those swing voters, or gotten some people out of the house to vote. i think he and obama were both too focused on attacking each other, and at the end of the day the incumbent is hard to unseat.
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Originally posted by 32valves_of_pleasure View Posti'm not sure why reagan is put on a high pedestal. senile old man in his second term, iran contra and star wars (lol).
romney could have won if he played his cards right and swayed some of those swing voters, or gotten some people out of the house to vote. i think he and obama were both too focused on attacking each other, and at the end of the day the incumbent is hard to unseat.
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Originally posted by 32valves_of_pleasure View Posti'm not sure why reagan is put on a high pedestal. senile old man in his second term, iran contra and star wars (lol).
romney could have won if he played his cards right and swayed some of those swing voters, or gotten some people out of the house to vote. i think he and obama were both too focused on attacking each other, and at the end of the day the incumbent is hard to unseat.Last edited by CJ; 11-09-2012, 10:52 AM.
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Originally posted by no4njnk View PostRyan, Rubio, Rand Paul
The gop only wants people who will play ball with the democrats
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i'm not sure why reagan is put on a high pedestal. senile old man in his second term, iran contra and star wars (lol).
romney could have won if he played his cards right and swayed some of those swing voters, or gotten some people out of the house to vote. i think he and obama were both too focused on attacking each other, and at the end of the day the incumbent is hard to unseat.Last edited by 32valves_of_pleasure; 11-09-2012, 05:20 AM.
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Originally posted by jw33 View PostAnd that is why they need to keep the Huckabee and Santorum types in the party, just turn their volume down. But it's not like the evangelicals are going to outright disappear either. The current message can stay intact to a large degree if they will just present it better.
I firmly believe if Reagan ran again, he would win without question. I just struggle with weather or not the current run of candidates are just poor communicators, or if Reagan was just extraordinary.
Ron Paul was excellent fiscally but rendered himself irrelevant with foreign policy. Anytime a liberal can easily make a case that you're dangerous on foreign policy, of all things, you've got a problem.
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And that is why they need to keep the Huckabee and Santorum types in the party, just turn their volume down. But it's not like the evangelicals are going to outright disappear either. The current message can stay intact to a large degree if they will just present it better.
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Originally posted by bcoop View PostI don't believe in God. But I'm not a militant atheist either. I volunteer quite a bit feeding the homeless, and it just so happens to be at a church. Unlike many others, on this board even, I dont take it to hateful levels when religion is discussed. I have no issue with "One Nation under God", or. "In God we trust". I also agree that it helps prevent moral decay. I'm not saying they need to let religion go completely. But it needs to cease being a centerpiece of their identity politically.
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Originally posted by CJ View Post^^ I ninja'ed that. The democrats get to set a false narrative. I see the GOP as the party of responsibility, and I see the Democrats as the party of irresponsibility. I think that needs to be the focus. The problem is many people want to be irresponsible, they advocate for it.
Oh I agree there. And yes, they do advocate irresponsibility and a lack of leadership.
Originally posted by CJ View PostThat's a very difficult choice. I think it's far more complicated than some make it seem. I am not a religious person at all. However, I do feel that religion has a benefit of preventing moral decay. Which is a huge problem with the country.
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Originally posted by 46Tbird View PostThe Republicans will never again have a presidency or senate majority until they take a step back from threatening abortion and start advocating birth control measures. And even though most women abhor abortion, they also don't like the idea of "old white men" telling them what they can't do.
Every day this country becomes less religious and more sexually liberal, and a majority of voters don't want to hear their representatives going on about morality.
I'm just repeating what I'm hearing from a bunch of women I know that are generally conservative but won't vote for Republicans. Something is going to have to change in the GOP to get their candidates elected.
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The Republicans will never again have a presidency or senate majority until they take a step back from threatening abortion and start advocating birth control measures. And even though most women abhor abortion, they also don't like the idea of "old white men" telling them what they can't do.
Every day this country becomes less religious and more sexually liberal, and a majority of voters don't want to hear their representatives going on about morality.
I'm just repeating what I'm hearing from a bunch of women I know that are generally conservative but won't vote for Republicans. Something is going to have to change in the GOP to get their candidates elected.
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