Unions blocking workers in NJ

[Craizie]

I let my hard work and dedication to my job do my negotiating. I have job security because I do a good job, not because a union has my back. I get regular, and GOOD raises because my job want's me to stick around.

[KBScobravert]

just left a job where the union held management hostage on a daily basis. At the same time they held the junior members hostage also.

I was there to witness how the union acted at contract negotiations. The union officials got themselves sweet deals and none of the changes effected them. All the changes effected the junior people and were told take it or leave it.

I have enough experience to have ran the damn department but because I was junior to a bunch of people that had done nothing but the same job for 30-40 years I made the bottom of the barrel and got treated like it. So past work history and experiences meant absolutely squat. That tells me that they either A. wanted my experience but didn't want to compensate me for it or B. didn't want new theories and ways of thinking. They simply wanted to do business like they have done for the past 60 years. Pathetic.

The senior guys, making TWICE an hour what I made and wanted the junior people to do the work and so they could sit back and watch. Then they were the first to bitch about the smallest shit. There was no TEAM effort, it was the senior fucks that were topped out that had ZERO real world experience outside of their little bubble and then you had the folks that brought in experience, education, professional development training certs etc. that got paid the least and told which hours they HAD to work even outside of 40 a week.

That union was a fucking joke. Did absolutely dick for you unless you had been there for 5 plus years and was part of their clique. The company gave you 5 days sick and 10 days vacation your first year. I signed an offer letter on the 12th Dec and quit my other job. They started the first new hires for 2012 on the 9th of Jan. When it came time in July for sick days to come out "oh, you got hired after the first of the year. You have to wait until July 2013 for sick days". Same thing for vacation but vacation was even more of a fucking "you have to do a full calendar year from Oct to Oct to get the vacation days in the following summer. Wait until July 2014 for vacation days". So for a year and a half I am expected to work MANDATORY OT on my days off as long as they contact me 8hrs before the shift and I don't get any sick or vac for almost 2 years. Uh, hey union what are you gonna do about that? NOT A FUCKING THING, thanks for playing.

Needless to say I popped smoke and am back doing what I do, making 6 figures and being respected for my knowledge and utilized at the same time I am compensated. Oh, and I get a fuck ton of vacation time earned each paycheck and paid travel to and from my point of origin (DFW for me).

The sad thing is, I wanted to work for the company and found myself hating it becuase of the union.

[Forever_frost]

Via Toledo Blade:

Perrysburg police today issued misdemeanor citations to four men for allegedly being in possession of stolen political signs.

Those charged with receiving stolen property included John Russell, 39, of Toledo, and Chris Monaghan 41, of Rossford, who are both listed on the Sheet Metal Workers Local 33 Web site as business agents for the union’s Toledo district.

The men were in a pickup truck registered to Local 33 in Parma, Ohio, police said.

Also cited were Corey J. Beaubien, 37, and Sean Bresler, 33, both of Toledo.

A Tea Party Web site reported Friday the truck was loaded with the campaign signs of GOP Presidential nominee Mitt Romney and running mate Paul Ryan. Perrysburg police did not confirm that, but a police incident report said that the summonses were issued about 12:30 a.m. in the 11100 block of Fremont Pike “after several reports were taken of political signs being stolen in the city of Perrysburg.”

[Broncojohnny]

Via Toledo Blade:

Perrysburg police today issued misdemeanor citations to four men for allegedly being in possession of stolen political signs.

Those charged with receiving stolen property included John Russell, 39, of Toledo, and Chris Monaghan 41, of Rossford, who are both listed on the Sheet Metal Workers Local 33 Web site as business agents for the union’s Toledo district.

The men were in a pickup truck registered to Local 33 in Parma, Ohio, police said.

Also cited were Corey J. Beaubien, 37, and Sean Bresler, 33, both of Toledo.

A Tea Party Web site reported Friday the truck was loaded with the campaign signs of GOP Presidential nominee Mitt Romney and running mate Paul Ryan. Perrysburg police did not confirm that, but a police incident report said that the summonses were issued about 12:30 a.m. in the 11100 block of Fremont Pike “after several reports were taken of political signs being stolen in the city of Perrysburg.”

This is what happens when you can't make an honest living, you will lie, cheat and steal to keep getting that paycheck that you probably shouldn't be getting in the first place.

[Fatass]

I have never seen a union job finish on time, under budget, with any degree of success ever. You also don't see innovation from union.

Really? I come in 2-4 hours under my standard times eight hours a day, 5 days a week. I believe that would be on time and under budget, but I guess I don't count.

[4eyedwillie]

Really? I come in 2-4 hours under my standard times eight hours a day, 5 days a week. I believe that would be on time and under budget, but I guess I don't count.

You don't fit their preconceptions so your irrelevant, that or you must do a half ass job that's the only way you can get done with a union mentality

[Forever_frost]

Really? I come in 2-4 hours under my standard times eight hours a day, 5 days a week. I believe that would be on time and under budget, but I guess I don't count.

What about your coworkers? Your fellow union members? Do you still get paid for all 8 hours or just the ones you work?

[Fatass]

What about them? I'm not in that place to babysit. But our daily efficiency as a team generally runs 108%. That takes into account rework and anything else done while clocked into a shop order. I tend to run months at a time without a defect, all of my work is 100% inspection and our qaa's have no problem writing a nonconformance if it isn't right, even paperwork.

[onemeangixxer7502]

Honest question, Why do you need representation? If you do a good job, why would you need that? They can't fire you for no reason, they have laws. People get sued these days for shit like that so it makes it impossible. If you don't like your job, then you can find another one. I don't understand this mentality that you have to be babysat by a union. I work for myself, I don't need anyone watching out for me. The government is a great example of why I wouldn't. It's like growing up and moving out, cut the cord.

x2, its bs. Unions have far outlived their usefulness . They're killing a lot of american industry. Look at the auto industry.

[SMEGMA STENCH]

for me its not about organized labor, so much as weeding the weak from the rest of the pack. if you dont have the commitment to do a 5 year apprenticeship with 800 class hours and 8000 OTJ hours, you are not fit to be in my trade or recieve my pay scale.. get in line or go work for DTR mechainical. (Down the Road, for the uninformed).

There is something else out there... cant think of it right now...but i do remember that its far older than any union... and it will be around long after unions are gone......man what was that.....

oh yeah its COLLEGE

Ever heard of it

because one man can fix "power lines".. lol

one man ? They got one man working out there ? for somereason i was thinking it was hundreds .

[mikec]

they sure do have the man power to fix it.. IBEW is international.. they put an open call to all CERTIFIED UNION electricians.. a couple open shop dudes arent gonna show up and touch a damn thing, until they buy their book and pay some dues.. sorry thats the way it is..

and FF, no one is really willing to go to prison for murder over a job.. it'll get done when it gets done.. where were those bama boys when katrina hit? tempt me.

That is a very selfish, on the unions part, stance. These out of state workers are not being paid by the locals for their work, they are being paid by their companies in whatever state they are from. Sometimes it is about something larger than YOUR paycheck. Which is what this breaks down to.

They want to keep their cake, and anyone that wants a bite of it can go to hell. Or freeze, starve, shit themselves, whatever...

[naynay]

There is something else out there... cant think of it right now...but i do remember that its far older than any union... and it will be around long after unions are gone......man what was that.....

oh yeah its COLLEGE

Ever heard of it




one man ? They got one man working out there ? for somereason i was thinking it was hundreds .

$100k student loan.. umm no thanks

hundreds? you dont know how trades work..

[naynay]

That is a very selfish, on the unions part, stance. These out of state workers are not being paid by the locals for their work, they are being paid by their companies in whatever state they are from. Sometimes it is about something larger than YOUR paycheck. Which is what this breaks down to.

They want to keep their cake, and anyone that wants a bite of it can go to hell. Or freeze, starve, shit themselves, whatever...

so if i go work in nevada i pay texas taxes?

[DON SVO]

so if i go work in nevada i pay texas taxes?

If you are on a Texas company's payroll, yes. Your paycheck originates from Texas and is subject to Texas taxation. The flip side is if you are hired by FEMA or another govt body for temp work... You'd probably be paid as a 1099 when sent as a contractor.

[Forever_frost]

If you are on a Texas company's payroll, yes. Your paycheck originates from Texas and is subject to Texas taxation. The flip side is if you are hired by FEMA or another govt body for temp work... You'd probably be paid as a 1099 when sent as a contractor.

And then issued a FEMA black, polymer single person transport system.