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    So General Petraeus said he did not tell anyone from the CIA to stand down so someone above him overrode his order to not send any help. The only people above him are Hillary, Penetta, and obama...so who gave the order to stand down? My bet is on obama since we issued an apology while we were being attacked and he has yet to say this was an act of terror. Funny how that p.o.s. has not called one muslim attack terrorism but is quick to his guns when it is anyone else.

    This whole situation is sickening, they did not approve the request for additional security, the did not approve of the special forces team requesting to stay, they did not approve any backup when the fight started. The White House watched everything from the comfort of the plane or situation room and did nothing. They watched the 2 hero CIA (former SEALs) hold off 200 people for 2 hours and die, they watched the ambassador die 4 hours in and did nothing. Special operations teams were ready and loaded but were told to stand down repeatedly. A CIA agent had his laser on the mortar team but no authorization was given to hit the target, no drones or AC-130s.

    If not for the heroes Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty there would have been 20 additional dead. These guys should get the Distinguished Intelligence Cross but will get no more than recognition that they died. They won't even get any credit for giving total disregard for oneself in order to save fellow Americans who needed a hero.

    Words cannot even describe the lack of character the obama administration has shown in this situation. Playing a political game, watching heroes die, and then lie to the American public time and time again. The American people deserve better...

  • #2
    here i always thought when us soil being attacked military was able to kick in so not have to wait on orders . Like its a given or something

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    • #3
      Something I didn't think about. You don't paint a target until the assets are in place as you have to sync with them.

      Then there’s this bombshell at BlackFive from a former Delta operator:

      Having spent a good bit of time nursing a GLD (ground Laser Designator) in several garden spots around the world, something from the report jumped out at me.

      One of the former SEALs was actively painting the target. That means that Specter WAS ON STATION! Probably an AC130U. A ground laser designator is not a briefing pointer laser. You do not “paint” a target until the weapons system/designator is synched; which means that the AC130 was on station.

      Only two places could have called off the attack at that point; the WH situation command (based on POTUS direction) or AFRICOM commander based on information directly from the target area.

      If the AC130 never left Sigonella (as Penetta says) that means that the Predator that was filming the whole thing was armed.

      If that SEAL was actively “painting” a target; something was on station to engage! And the decision to stand down goes directly to POTUS!

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      • #4
        A caller today discussed this with Rush Limbaugh.
        Via the Right Scoop:

        Here is part of that conversation.

        CALLER: Well, there’s three networks, Rush. The e-mails that have been released are unclassified e-mails. On the top secret side, a flash traffic message from the embassy Tripoli to the White House Situation Room, it’s like an IM. I mean, it’s immediately responded to. You have to acknowledge receipt of it. Okay? So it’s immediate. It gets to the person, the watch officer sitting there, boom, flashes on his screen, he has to acknowledge receipt. And then there’s a protocol for who he then sends it to. He physically turns to someone, the senior guy on watch, “This is a critical element of information. POTUS needs to hear this,” and that’s what would have happened.

        So no one in the White House can deny that — well, they can deny it, but the fact is the protocol says someone marched their happy little ass up to the senior guy standing next to POTUS and said, “Sir, ambassador in Libya is in peril.” And if he was missing, that is even a higher precedence. And then the chain would have also gone out automatically to the geographic combatant commander, AFRICOM, and he would have then turned to his special operations commander and said, “I want the In-Extremis Force, you know, strip ready in five minutes.” And evidently they were strip ready in Sigonella and they would have the assets to penetrate the airspace, you know, an MC-130 papa, which is a C-130 specially equipped with electronic countermeasures. They didn’t need permission to enter Libyan airspace, okay?

        I’m giving you a lot of Inside Baseball stuff, and maybe putting myself in a little peril by doing it, but the In-Extremis Force, they would have been chomping at the bit to do this. It was turned down, POTUS, at his five p.m. Eastern time meeting with the principals, that’s when he put the kibosh on everything. It was a conscious act. It has to be because, you know, the In-Extremis Force is required to be prepared to do In-Extremis non-combatant evacuation operations for its geographic responsibility, the entire continent of Africa. So there’s always somebody ready to go, and the aircraft are always prepared to go.
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        • #5
          A rotting fish always stinks from the head down. There's no way Barry didn't know about this, or make the decision to stand down. Remember the famous picture of all of his cronies posing in the "situation room" around that monitor when we were about to take out bin Laden? I promise you this was the same damn thing. A drone caught it all in "real time", and for seven long hours, he did NOTHING.

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          • #6
            The liar and thief in the whitehouse has it coming to him for what he has done and will continue to do to this country. I hope we get to see it live.

            In the meantime, he will deny and deflect and the media ignore it so that he can carry on his agenda.

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            • #7
              Considering how fast info travels to the WH from overseas, you know he knew within the hour. He watched, for 7 hours, as our people died. And then he got a good night sleep and flew to Vegas to raise money.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
                A rotting fish always stinks from the head down. There's no way Barry didn't know about this, or make the decision to stand down. Remember the famous picture of all of his cronies posing in the "situation room" around that monitor when we were about to take out bin Laden? I promise you this was the same damn thing. A drone caught it all in "real time", and for seven long hours, he did NOTHING.
                Yep. And notice how everyone is in business casual dress, at the least... Except for Obama dressed in his Izod after just being yanked off of the fucking golf course.

                How do we forget ourselves? How do we forget our minds?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by line-em-up View Post
                  The liar and thief in the whitehouse has it coming to him for what he has done and will continue to do to this country. I hope we get to see it live.

                  In the meantime, he will deny and deflect and the media ignore it so that he can carry on his agenda.
                  I believe Justice is eventually done. May take a bit, but Justice is always carried out.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Geor! View Post
                    Yep. And notice how everyone is in business casual dress, at the least... Except for Obama dressed in his Izod after just being yanked off of the fucking golf course.

                    Are those hillary's lesbo porn photos on her laptop?

                    Also, I find it odd that most powerful people in our country are still using 4 year old laptops. Those look like hp 6930's

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                      I believe Justice is eventually done. May take a bit, but Justice is always carried out.
                      When is the last time a president was held responsible after they were out of office?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by no4njnk View Post
                        When is the last time a president was held responsible after they were out of office?
                        That what presidential pardons are for!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by no4njnk View Post
                          When is the last time a president was held responsible after they were out of office?
                          When was the last time you saw something like this? We haven't. Nixon and Clinton were impeached for less
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                          • #14
                            What are they trying to distract us from? Even somebody who is as big of fuck up as Obama has enough people around him to keep him from letting something like this get out of hand. They say nothing in politics happens by accident. So get out your tin foil and think what is going on that is worse than this that they don’t want us to know about.

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                            • #15
                              Obama doesn't take criticism. Ever. Did you watch the debates? He just can't stand it. He more than likely fell back on his ideology which says the MB are friends and the US needs to be knocked down a few pegs.
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