Naynay and 4eyes

[Forever_frost]

So 6 of 18 the numbers slipped? That's not to bad. And really, back the gas prices back a couple months to Bush's high number and we still haven't got there even with all the QE you keep spouting about. So that's really 5 that slipped.

S&P up 81%, Consumer Confidence Index up 86%, Petroleum imports down 23%, WOW guess he's a total fuckup, can't get ANYTHING right huh?

Food stamps up 46%
Soldiers killed in Afghanistan almost 1500 troops since he became president
Total Debt increase 52%
Debt held by the public: 72%

Alone, he increased TOTAL debt by 52%. By himself during only his presidency. And INCREASED debt held by the PUBLCI 72% by himself only during his presidency.

Spin that.

Here's a towel, wipe yourself off

[Forever_frost]

I'm glad you have it in you (FF) for these arguments, because I lost my patience in regards to military things years ago. I'll throw in 2 cents every now and then, but I can't understand how people can have 0 understanding of how the military/government works from a training aspect.

I do it otherwise they would believe everything their masters say

[4eyedwillie]

I challenge your wiki with the government's site
An embassy is usually located in the capital city of a foreign nation. U.S. embassies abroad, as well as foreign embassies in the United States, have a special status. While an embassy remains the territory of the host state, under international rules representatives of the host country may not enter an embassy without permission—even to put out a fire.

Because an embassy represents a sovereign state, any attack on an embassy is considered an attack on the country it represents.

http://diplomacy.state.gov/discoverd...ces/170537.htm

There ya go, see we agree! The territory belongs to the host country. Which means it's not US soil.

[Forever_frost]

"Because an embassy represents a sovereign state, any attack on an embassy is considered an attack on the country it represents."

Reading is fundamental. Attacks on the embassy is an attack on the US

[4eyedwillie]

Food stamps up 46%
Soldiers killed in Afghanistan almost 1500 troops since he became president
Total Debt increase 52%
Debt held by the public: 72%

Alone, he increased TOTAL debt by 52%. By himself during only his presidency. And INCREASED debt held by the PUBLCI 72% by himself only during his presidency.

Spin that.

Here's a towel, wipe yourself off

I believe I read in the Constitution that congress pass's all spending bills then presents them to the president to be passed or not. So Congress spent the money he just approved it.

S&P up 81%, CCI up 86%, Drilling up 23%, On track to be the worlds largest exporter of oil next year and the amount has been going up EVERY year for the last 4 years DOH!!! Guess he's anti oil huh? Wind and solar power up 116% Guess he cares about the future also.
Manufacturing up 48%. Guess he cares about jobs also?

As for the 1500 troop deaths if we hadn't been there in the first place they wouldn't have happened. I would like nothing better than to yank every last one of them out of harms way and get them home, but if we did Afghanistan would burn to the ground. It probably will anyway but since we went in and destabilized the country we have a responsibility to do what we can to fix the mess.

[4eyedwillie]

"Because an embassy represents a sovereign state, any attack on an embassy is considered an attack on the country it represents."

Reading is fundamental. Attacks on the embassy is an attack on the US

But NOT Us soil which were you words

From your link:
While an embassy remains the territory of the host state

[Forever_frost]

I believe I read in the Constitution that congress pass's all spending bills then presents them to the president to be passed or not. So Congress spent the money he just approved it.

S&P up 81%, CCI up 86%, Drilling up 23%, On track to be the worlds largest exporter of oil next year and the amount has been going up EVERY year for the last 4 years DOH!!! Guess he's anti oil huh? Wind and solar power up 116% Guess he cares about the future also.
Manufacturing up 48%. Guess he cares about jobs also?

As for the 1500 troop deaths if we hadn't been there in the first place they wouldn't have happened. I would like nothing better than to yank every last one of them out of harms way and get them home, but if we did Afghanistan would burn to the ground. It probably will anyway but since we went in and destabilized the country we have a responsibility to do what we can to fix the mess.

No, we really don't. Obama said he'd get us out of both. Instead he followed Bush's SOFA and pushed Afghanistan beyond his term so he can claim he's doing something about it. I imagine you believe we are out of Iraq don't you?

Sad, sad little man.

So, since we went in and destabilized Egypt, Libya and Syria, do we have an obligation to them as well? You really don't like talking about these Obama wars.

and you're also forgetting about Obama's moratorium on offshore drilling, him handing 2 billion to Venezuela to drill in their waters while we're not allowed to drill in ours AND he cut drilling on federal lands. My favorite? He didn't allow permission for Keystone but the part that didn't need his approval started getting built and he went and took credit for that.

You're still dodging the sheer amount of debt he's accumulated during his term. Debt he said wouldn't happen, unemployment he said would be about half of what it is. Spin the 50% increase in total debt and almost 80% in public debt.

[majorownage]

Sad, sad little man.

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