Why does Planned Parenthood get federal funds again?

[Baba Ganoush]

Get outta here with that sound logic Frost!

[Forever_frost]

Hell, abortion kills more people every year than heart disease or cancer

The abortion death figure does not include deaths of the mothers as a result of abortions, it is just the deaths of the babies. The abortion death count also does not count illegal or unreported abortions, nor does it include multiple pregnancy (twins, triplets, etc.) deaths, or deaths in mothers that may occur years later due to an increased risk of breast cancer.

Cause of death Number of deaths
------------------------------- ----------------
Induced abortions 1,359,145
Cardiovascular disease 948,088
Cancer (all types) 529,904
Pulmonary disease (emphysema, etc.) 101,077
Pneumonia and influenza 82,820
Infectious diseases (not AIDS) 70,143
Diabetes 53,894
Accidents other than motor vehicle 48,630
AIDS 43,652
Motor vehicle accidents 41,893
Suicide 31,102
Homicide 26,009
Liver disease 25,209
Kidney disease 23,317


And again, I'm not arguing ANY of that. I'm arguing the Supreme Law of the Land

[Baba Ganoush]

Abortion kills people? I was all on board until that statement.

[noshine4mine]

Department of health should offer cash payments to people who volunteer for Vasectomies and tubal ligations. 15-20k to shoot blanks...


Cheap as shit.

[Treasure Chest]

No, if they dump the child in a dumpster, they should be arrested and put in prison. And again, if states, cities or individuals would like to fund this, by all means. I'm not even discussing this as a matter of ethics or morality. I'm arguing it on basis of constitutionality and legality. Personal responsibility for your actions, sometimes actually hurts.

Just because they're forced to give birth to a child doesn't mean they're going to be responsible for it. When the orphan train movement started, there were 30,000 vagrant children living in the streets of New York. Would you like to bring back orphanages to deal with the abandoned children?

And your abortion statistics account for all induced abortions, including medically necessary abortions and selective abortions.

[big_tiger]

If PP can survive on its own, it's time to cut the cord. Same with anything else.

[Forever_frost]

If PP can survive on its own, it's time to cut the cord. Same with anything else.

Hell, even if it can't. Sink or swim, it's a private entity.

[Forever_frost]

Just because they're forced to give birth to a child doesn't mean they're going to be responsible for it. When the orphan train movement started, there were 30,000 vagrant children living in the streets of New York. Would you like to bring back orphanages to deal with the abandoned children?

And your abortion statistics account for all induced abortions, including medically necessary abortions and selective abortions.

Again, if this is so popular and 'everyone wants it' then they should have no problem funding it. Emotional ploys don't work. Personal responsibility says that if you have kids you can't afford then you pay the piper. If you can't afford them, you don't engage in the actions to have them or you wear a condom. Condoms can be had for what? 75 cents a pop in gas stations? If you can't afford a buck, you don't need to get laid. The other option seems to be to kill a living creature because you couldn't figure out how to keep your dick in your pants and legs closed.

So, summary: Cut PP funding completely. If they can afford to provide millions for campaigns, they can afford to be on their own. And it's unconstitutional to fund them

[Forever_frost]

Department of health should offer cash payments to people who volunteer for Vasectomies and tubal ligations. 15-20k to shoot blanks...


Cheap as shit.

Could work if state funded. No constitutional authority for fed

[Baba Ganoush]

Department of health should offer cash payments to people who volunteer for Vasectomies and tubal ligations. 15-20k to shoot blanks...


Cheap as shit.

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[svauto-erotic855]

You have to wonder if Planned Parenthood is using any of the hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars Obama helps steer to them for these endless ad buys.

You have to wonder????? Planned parent hood is a corporation with 1.5 billion dollars in annual sales. They also receive a few hundred million in government funding annually. They are given that money because they kick back about 30% of it to Democrat campaign coffers. It is a money laundering scam pure and simple.

[Baba Ganoush]

I think obama mentioned them more than a dozen times in the debate. Guess they're getting what they paid for.

[racrguy]

Abortion kills people? I was all on board until that statement.

To some waterheads they think that as soon as the egg is breached by a sperm you've got a person, hence the recent "personhood" laws being made recently. Not smrt.

Also, I'd let the government pay me 20k to get a vasectomy, I'm getting too old to have kids anyway. Until such time, I'll stand by the motto "butt babies don't live."

[Forever_frost]

To some waterheads they think that as soon as the egg is breached by a sperm you've got a person, hence the recent "personhood" laws being made recently. Not smrt.

Also, I'd let the government pay me 20k to get a vasectomy, I'm getting too old to have kids anyway. Until such time, I'll stand by the motto "butt babies don't live."

If you found DNA on Mars, science would scream "Life on another planet" yet we're called 'waterheads' for claiming that sperm and an egg is life?

[kingjason]

Also, I'd let the government pay me 20k to get a vasectomy, I'm getting too old to have kids anyway. Until such time, I'll stand by the motto "butt babies don't live."

I am not usually an entitlement guy but I better get my retro pay for this.