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    Parents of students at Carroll County schools in Baltimore, Md., say a new policy that scans kids’ palms to pay for their lunches goes too far.

    Photo: Barbara Haddock Taylor/Baltimore Sun/MCT via Getty ImagesWith the PalmSecure system, students hover their hands over an infrared scanner that ID’s them by the unique patterns in their skin and registers a sale, according to a report from the Daily Herald.

    The Herald talked to Mike Richmond, who has two children at a Westminster elementary school. He said the scanning started before parents were given the chance to opt-out.

    “I didn’t appreciate how they handled it. I’m concerned about it. I know it’s the way of the future, but it’s fingerprinting, it’s palm-printing.”

    The district said the goal is to decrease the time it takes to pay for lunches since the children have a limited amount of time to eat their meals.

    The controversial system is operating in three Carroll County elementary schools with plans to expand to the whole district within a year. It’s also used in many other schools around the country where there have also been concerns about invasion of privacy as well as the cost of the system. Once implemented, PalmSecure will run the Carroll County district about $300,000.


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    Pack the kid a school lunch then... sheesh.

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    • #3
      Or, could respect the privacy of people and not scan their fucking hand to accept their money.
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      • #4
        Put on your tin foil hat and shelter your kiddos then. The way I see it, its one more way to make sure your kid(s) are in school and safe. There is a point where it becomes over the line. But I dont see the big deal in it. I have 3 kiddos, 5month 9/10 years old. Schools are not the same as when I was there. I wouldnt care if they scan a hand. I seriously doubt that nothing more is tied to that scan but the childs info such as grade, maybe amount of funds on the childs lunch account. Doubt a SS# or criminal reccord is going to show up for 4th grade lunch

        Its probably more secure than sticking your debit card in the gas pump and stabbing your pin number in.
        Last edited by Redd; 10-07-2012, 08:33 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Redd View Post
          Put on your tin foil hat and shelter your kiddos then. The way I see it, its one more way to make sure your kid(s) are in school and safe. There is a point where it becomes over the line. But I dont see the big deal in it. I have 3 kiddos, 5month 9/10 years old. Schools are not the same as when I was there. I wouldnt care if they scan a hand. I seriously doubt that nothing more is tied to that scan but the childs info such as grade, maybe amount of funds on the childs lunch account. Doubt a SS# or criminal reccord is going to show up for 4th grade lunch

          Its probably more secure than sticking your debit card in the gas pump and stabbing your pin number in.
          The fact that we are being systematically cataloged by the govt doesn't bother you? You can bet that all of that data will be fed back to the govt.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by line-em-up View Post
            The fact that we are being systematically cataloged by the govt doesn't bother you? You can bet that all of that data will be fed back to the govt.
            Im sure it will... What will it prove to the GOVT? The fact the kid got some nasty ass pizza or hamburger they probly will trade for something from a friends sack lunch or better yet, just eat the jello and toss the rest in the trash? Guess they need to put hand scanners on the trash cans to see if they ate the entire lunch or took atleast a bite of a veggie.

            The govt already has access to your childs school info anyways, they do roll call every day. So now they scan a hand for a freaking lunch and parents freaking out. The ones throwing a fit are the ones that can probably afford to pay for school lunches yet signed up for the assistance for the free/pay like 50cents for a lunch instead paying the few dollar like every other kid has too.


            Parents should be more worried about what the child is doing with that smart phone, on facebook, etc...
            Last edited by Redd; 10-07-2012, 08:50 PM.

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            • #7
              It's information the government doesn't need access to, more information about your CHILDREN that a hacker can get into, see when your kid eats, what they eat and can swipe cash from the account.

              It's also the nose under the tent. "It's only a palm scan." Then "It's only a chip in your kid to make sure we know where they are."
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              • #8
                Then you need to homeschool them. It's nothing more than what is already been done in the past. Hell my jr high school the lunch system you used debit style cards that parents could load money onto. The govt already knows what they want about your child as its in a govt public school. Give your kid cash to buy a dime bag or pack em a sack lunch.

                I've seen kids in the area with highschool Ids around the neck with chips in them with students info.

                A hacker can steal your child's info from the minute they are born. Just as easy as people do at ATMs, gas pumps, etc.


                Damn bunch of aluminum foil hat wearing mofos.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Redd View Post


                  Damn bunch of aluminum foil hat wearing mofos.
                  Ignorant, how ignorant you are.
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                  • #10
                    I'm not afraid of my kids having a hand scan. If someone wants a person or child's info they will get it regardless of a hand scan or from the Internet etc.

                    There is more going on in schools that need to be adressed than scanning hands for lunches.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Redd View Post
                      Then you need to homeschool them. It's nothing more than what is already been done in the past. Hell my jr high school the lunch system you used debit style cards that parents could load money onto. The govt already knows what they want about your child as its in a govt public school. Give your kid cash to buy a dime bag or pack em a sack lunch.

                      I've seen kids in the area with highschool Ids around the neck with chips in them with students info.

                      A hacker can steal your child's info from the minute they are born. Just as easy as people do at ATMs, gas pumps, etc.


                      Damn bunch of aluminum foil hat wearing mofos.
                      Know the difference between a debit card and your kid's fingerprints being taken?
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                      • #12
                        The debit card was towards your stolen money response.



                        It's pretty simple however, don't want your kids hand scanned pack them a sack lunch or put them in a private or home school not a PUBLIC school.

                        I do agree technology can be a bit much and there is many good and bad sides to it. I really dislike this edmundo thing kids use. It's like Facebook but teachers use it as a tool to help with homework and fellow class mates can talk and help each other with homework. It requires a log in from the teacher for parents to supervise.
                        Last edited by Redd; 10-07-2012, 09:58 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Redd View Post
                          The debit card was towards your stolen money response.



                          It's pretty simple however, don't want your kids hand scanned pack them a sack lunch or put them in a private or home school not a PUBLIC school.

                          I do agree technology can be a bit much and there is many good and bad sides to it. I really dislike this edmundo thing kids use. It's like Facebook but teachers use it as a tool to help with homework and fellow class mates can talk and help each other with homework. It requires a log in from the teacher for parents to supervise.
                          Which works right up until the school decides your sack lunch isn't good enough and takes it away and forces your kid to go through the line. Which has happened with Chewie's school lunch mandates
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                          • #14
                            Next They will be checking body fat to determine portions.
                            Don't worry about what you can't change.
                            Do the best you can with what you have.
                            Be honest, even if it hurts.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Redd View Post
                              Then you need to homeschool them. It's nothing more than what is already been done in the past. Hell my jr high school the lunch system you used debit style cards that parents could load money onto. The govt already knows what they want about your child as its in a govt public school. Give your kid cash to buy a dime bag or pack em a sack lunch.

                              I've seen kids in the area with highschool Ids around the neck with chips in them with students info.

                              A hacker can steal your child's info from the minute they are born. Just as easy as people do at ATMs, gas pumps, etc.


                              Damn bunch of aluminum foil hat wearing mofos.
                              you shoudl know by now you give the goverment an inch theyll take a mile

                              next theyll want to implant some chip

                              i really dont know how these isd's keep functioning id be demanding that people be fired . i dont want some sorry sack of crap that comes up with stuff like that anywhere near my kids much less making decisions for them

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