New life for the F-22

[Sgt Beavis]

Check out the Chinese knockoff. Something tells me that the F-22 may very well have just found some additional Congressional Support.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/12/is-this-chinas-first-stealth-fighter/

[mstng86]

damn it, the problem with China is it is full of Chinese.

[Vertnut]

Considering the Chinese-made can opener I got for Christmas is a real hunk of shit, I can't imagine what a flying turd that thing must be.

[GhostTX]

Are you kidding? All the bad guys live in caves in Afghanistan. :S

[Cannonball996]

just goes to show that the pentagon was right when they stated the F22 had been compromised by the chinese, they know everything there is to know about this aircraft.

if they know how to build it, then they know how to detect it, and they know how to stop it

[GhostTX]

They already know how to detect the B2. Basically, they watch the entire radio spectrum and look for the blank spot.

[SMEGMA STENCH]

I always wondered: Wouldn't it be better to just launch some nukes into space attached to a satellite that could launch them? Then, they can look for the bombers all they want on their little radars. All they'll ever get to see is the nuke itself coming right down out of the sky.

[Sgt Beavis]

I always wondered: Wouldn't it be better to just launch some nukes into space attached to a satellite that could launch them? Then, they can look for the bombers all they want on their little radars. All they'll ever get to see is the nuke itself coming right down out of the sky.

Who said we don't have that?

However, we are part of a treaty that makes it illegal to put nukes in orbit. Also I can imagine a lot of reasons you wouldn't want to do that.

[YALE]

It looks like a Sukhoi PAK FA:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_PAK_FA

[SlowLX]

just goes to show that the pentagon was right when they stated the F22 had been compromised by the chinese, they know everything there is to know about this aircraft.

if they know how to build it, then they know how to detect it, and they know how to stop it

Fuck, you migrated too?

[YALE]

I always wondered: Wouldn't it be better to just launch some nukes into space attached to a satellite that could launch them? Then, they can look for the bombers all they want on their little radars. All they'll ever get to see is the nuke itself coming right down out of the sky.

Who said we don't have that?

However, we are part of a treaty that makes it illegal to put nukes in orbit. Also I can imagine a lot of reasons you wouldn't want to do that.

We have submarines for that.

[LS1Goat]

Considering the Chinese-made can opener I got for Christmas is a real hunk of shit, I can't imagine what a flying turd that thing must be.

^agreed.

[Slowhand]

I always wondered: Wouldn't it be better to just launch some nukes into space attached to a satellite that could launch them? Then, they can look for the bombers all they want on their little radars. All they'll ever get to see is the nuke itself coming right down out of the sky.

The middle-school level of development of this post totally makes sense with our new-found information.

[Gargamel]

They already know how to detect the B2. Basically, they watch the entire radio spectrum and look for the blank spot.

It'll get you the general area, but unless something new has been developed, produced, and brought to the field, it doesn't help much as far as point defense goes... the successful F-117 tracking a few years ago used an early form of this, however, most people in the know believe the actual shoot down was a luck SAM shot while the bomb bay doors were open...

It looks like a Sukhoi PAK FA:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_PAK_FA

Yep, looks a lot like it.... It's easy to steal plans and make a copy...

Hard to develop the avionics\systems which make those birds lethal in the 21st century.

The PAK-FA and all derivatives are about 10 years behind the Raptor...

Why we ever cut funding for the F-22 and didn't export a dumbed down version of it is beyond me....

[Sgt Beavis]

Why we ever cut funding for the F-22 and didn't export a dumbed down version of it is beyond me....

Because politicians are morons.

The Japanese were ready to jump on board. They just wanted the more advanced avionics to be made available if war broke out. In other words the avionics would be kept in the US (or a US base in Japan) and only installed with US approval. That would have given us the security we wanted for those advanced systems and given the Japanese a fighter capable of warding off a threat from the Chinese.

Instead the Japanese are now moving forward with their own stealth fighter, currently called the ADT-X.

However it should be said that the DoD is already working on the a 6th generation fighter. Boeing seems to be doing a lot of research on the technology needed. Speculation is that the Air Force wants both manned and unmanned versions. Where the pilot of the manned craft would command a squadron of UAVs.