RNC changes rules last minute

[Geor!]

My hatred of the Paul supporters who just won't let this shit go nearly eclipses my hatred of the Obama supporters.

[Forever_frost]

My hatred of the Paul supporters who just won't let this shit go nearly eclipses my hatred of the Obama supporters.

Nearly

[Vertnut]

My hatred of the Paul supporters who just won't let this shit go nearly eclipses my hatred of the Obama supporters.

Obama supporters? On this board? There might be one or two hold-outs, but their asses are keeping a low profile.

[Vertnut]

If the definition of "tinkering around" and "pulling tricks" is to learn, instruct, and follow the rules and procedures in each state's primary or caucus process, then yes the Paul campaign has in fact done all of the above. Very well in some cases. The overwhelming majority was within the rules, no one inside the party did them any favors, they most of the time clearly stated what they planned to do, and anyone in the states that were so contested had the option to show up and do the same for their candidate. Again, the game is chess not checkers. And you play the game using the rules to your advantage as much as possible.

CJ is right when he said Paul never had a chance. The entire thing was a major longshot and no matter what happened Paul would never be given the nod. You still play to win though because there are different degrees of success in this game. Having good size group of delegates in your corner during the republican national convention is a nice thing to have. Most of the time a candidate will roll over for a nice box of chocolates and say whatever they are told to say which is great, just what we need more of in politics. Every once in a while though you get a stubborn old goat like Ron Paul (who is partly revered for his willingness to stand up and speak his mind) that will without a doubt actually use this scenario to influence the direction of the party based on what his supporters want. Some of it is good, some of it is bad, but mostly the fear within the party is the idea that someone would dare to challenge past or present record of those in power.

At the end of the day this (the party making power grabs) is bad for the GOP and bad for our country. This affects everyone, but the blindest republican voters. If you are for anything the Tea Party or Paul represents or wish for a smaller federal government or want to get Obama out of the Washington this is not good! The Ron Paul people I actually know, the ones that spend a decent amount of time and their own money getting out the message, who show up and participate in the process, some of who are in Tampa right now and were sent their by representatives from our state, this is probably what pisses everyone off the most. The, "say one thing do another" attitude and the good-ole-boy group is part of the problem. In Texas we actually have a decent state party. If I lived in one of these other states where I participated in the process and made my choice on whom to send to represent me and it was done fair and square within the rules and then some old coot in a suit just decided to change the rules, I would be fucking livid too.

And this is where and why it all matters. Now at the national convention the committees are even freer to do as they please with less resistance. The rules will get changed and this year it will not matter much (because the new rules shouldn't take effect until 2016), but next time it may be the candidate even more people get behind who is silenced at the highest level by the chosen few. If the question was asked, will the republican party include the grassroots movement and let them inside the big tent to expand the party and win elections, judging by their behavior so far the answer is no. And that is why, in my opinion, this is bad for everyone who plans to vote republican or against Obama in November. They are in at least some way ignoring/pissing off the people who are actually shaping party and they have told they want to attract as voters.

All that being said (Good Lord! LOL) why do you think Romney even considered Ryan as his running mate, or him talking about auditing the Fed? To say that the "grass roots" of the party are not welcome is ludicrous. Tea Party candidates are running for office all over the country, and doing quite well. It still amazes me that the staunch RP followers can't seem acknowledge (and continue to overlook) the flaws of a life-long politician. It's like he was born in 2008 as a 72-year-old man.

[Wicked98Snake]

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Doctor.

Doctor, doctor, aaaaaaannnd doctor.

[RCITNet]

Ron Paul has been finished for some time. He's only trying to build a platform for his son.

Romney has no chance against Obama come debate time. No one gives a shit about the VP when it boils down to it. As much as I dislike Obamas policies I'd rather have him than Romney.

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[Vertnut]

Ron Paul has been finished for some time. He's only trying to build a platform for his son.

Romney has no chance against Obama come debate time. No one gives a shit about the VP when it boils down to it. As much as I dislike Obamas policies I'd rather have him than Romney.

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Wow. I hope (and think) you're dead wrong. We'll know in about 70 days.

[bubbaearl]

at least romney has some experience in running a business . this country is a large corporation and we are the share holders. our current leader has 0 experience at running anything. not wild about romney but have had all of obama i can afford. i'd even take bush over him any day .

[stevo]

Ron Paul has been finished for some time. He's only trying to build a platform for his son.

Romney has no chance against Obama come debate time. No one gives a shit about the VP when it boils down to it. As much as I dislike Obamas policies I'd rather have him than Romney.

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As I said in that other thread, just another 0bama apologist.

Stevo

[Forever_frost]

Ron Paul has been finished for some time. He's only trying to build a platform for his son.

Romney has no chance against Obama come debate time. No one gives a shit about the VP when it boils down to it. As much as I dislike Obamas policies I'd rather have him than Romney.

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Why am I not surprised? Have you seen Obama debate? When he doesn't have his teleprompter we get gems like "You didn't build that" and "Little girls with asthma need some breathalyzers" and "My health care bill will reduce premiums by 3,000%"

[Vertnut]

Why am I not surprised? Have you seen Obama debate? When he doesn't have his teleprompter we get gems like "You didn't build that" and "Little girls with asthma need some breathalyzers" and "My health care bill will reduce premiums by 3,000%"

Not to mention "corpsmen" (pronouncing the "P") . I still laugh my ass off at that stupid dick-head. He's waaaay over his head in all phases of being POTUS.

[jw33]

Rules of the Republican Party, Preamble:

BE IT RESOLVED, That the Republican
Party is the party of the open door. Ours is the party
of liberty, the party of equality, of opportunity for all,
and favoritism for none.
It is the intent and purpose of these rules to
encourage and allow the broadest possible
participation of all voters in Republican Party
activities at all levels and to assure that the Republican
Party is open and accessible to all Americans.

[Vertnut]

Rules of the Republican Party, Preamble:

I agree. The Republican Convention is there for one reason only...to pick the candidate.

[Forever_frost]

Not to mention "corpsmen" (pronouncing the "P") . I still laugh my ass off at that stupid dick-head. He's waaaay over his head in all phases of being POTUS.

And "Medal of Honor WINNER" Really? Did he get it in a raffle?

[bcoop]

Lol @ all this.