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    AMPA—He was the last wild card left in the Republican deck. But now Ron Paul too has been deftly played, ensuring Mitt Romney holds the only hand going in to this week’s Republican National Convention.

    Up until Friday, Paul’s young and wildly committed supporters held out hope of mounting a coup on the convention floor in Tampa, or at least raising the flag noisily for their 77-year-old candidate.

    But last-minute maneuvering by Mitt Romney’s legal team stripped Paul of a trove of delegates, leaving many of Paul’s libertarian-leaning supporters all dressed up with nowhere to go.


    Instead Paul will end his third and likely final run for the presidency with what amounts to a political whimper: a “video tribute” to the former obstetrician and longtime Texas congressman will play on the convention floor.

    However, Paul himself will not be trusted to speak. Though an invitation was proffered, it came with rigid conditions — Paul’s words would be vetted by Team Romney and include a full-throated endorsement. Ron Paul said no.

    “It wouldn’t be my speech,” Paul told the New York Times. “That would undo everything I’ve done for the last 30 years. I don’t fully endorse him for president.”

    It’s all adds up to a bitter pill for his true believers, several thousand of whom gathered Saturday at the Florida State Fairgrounds for an event billed as the Paul Festival.

    Festive, it was not. As Tampa began to swell with the Republican faithful readying for Monday’s convention launch, the Paulistas vented freely.

    “Where is our democracy? This is shaping up as the Old Crony Convention, changing the voting rules for seating delegates midway to shove Mitt Romney down our throats,” said Melissa Swetich, a Paul supporter from Orlando. “I don’t know what to do with my vote now. I’m waiting for Ron Paul to tell me.”

    Others took a more incrementalist view, noting how deeply Paul’s unbending views on small government, low taxes and non-interventionism on the foreign front struck a chord with the 2012 electorate.

    “He threw a wrench in the system, talking about auditing the Federal Reserve and closing down foreign military bases,” said Cory Peterson, a Paul supporter from Minneapolis. “I expected the system would push back.

    “But in the meantime he achieved something real. He woke up a lot of us. And we’re not going to go back to sleep.”

    The question is, where does the Ron Paul revolution go now? Some at Saturday’s gathering spoke bitterly of throwing their vote to Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson, though he lacks Paul’s unscripted, blunt-talking appeal.

    Others intend to wait for Sunday, hoping Paul himself will offer guidance in his final campaign rally — at University of South Florida’s Sun Dome, where as many as 10,000 supporters are expected to gather.

    “Ron Paul said all along that it was up — the next generation — to us take this forward,” said Anne Davis, another Paul backer from Orlando.

    “Yes, we’re disappointed. But he did an amazing job, not just shaking things up but building a serious movement that the Republican party needs to take seriously from now on. We’re not going away.”









    If the Republicans were hoping to get Ron Paul supporters to vote for Romney they just fucked up royally. I see a lot of write ins for Ron Paul happening now since they can't play by the rules. It must be nice to just change the rules whenever you like to help one candidate.
    Last edited by teal93derp; 08-26-2012, 10:55 AM.

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    RP was offered a spot to speak. He decided he didn't "fully" support Romney. Who does? RP made this decision himself. "I am waiting for Ron Paul to tell me" who to vote for? Nuts...

    By the way, Romney has said he will call for an audit of the Fed. This was in RP's platform.
    Last edited by Vertnut; 08-26-2012, 11:15 AM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
      RP was offered a spot to speak. He decided he didn't "fully" support Romney. Who does? RP made this decision himself. "I am waiting for Ron Paul to tell me" who to vote for? Nuts...

      By the way, Romney has said he will call for an audit of the Fed. This was in RP's platform.
      No, DR Paul was offered a chance to support Romney, not speak freely. This is about the RNC changing the rules Friday night. That's complete and utter bullshit. If they have to change the rules a few days before the convention to disqualify DR Paul, it's quite obvious what type of shenanigans are going on.

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      • #4
        Paul never had a chance, and these RP supporters still don't understand it.
        "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
        "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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        • #5
          Originally posted by CJ View Post
          Paul never had a chance, and these RP supporters still don't understand it.
          It's about selecting the Republican candidate within the rules that were set out in the beginning. It has nothing to do with your opinions about DR Paul's chances. The RNC changed the rules to disqualify him. It's going to bite them in the ass... watch and see.

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          • #6
            Doctor doctor ...
            Last edited by slow99; 08-26-2012, 12:39 PM.
            Originally posted by davbrucas
            I want to like Slow99 since people I know say he's a good guy, but just about everything he posts is condescending and passive aggressive.

            Most people I talk to have nothing but good things to say about you, but you sure come across as a condescending prick. Do you have an inferiority complex you've attempted to overcome through overachievement? Or were you fondled as a child?

            You and slow99 should date. You both have passive aggressiveness down pat.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by teal93derp View Post
              It's about selecting the Republican candidate within the rules that were set out in the beginning. It has nothing to do with your opinions about DR Paul's chances. The RNC changed the rules to disqualify him. It's going to bite them in the ass... watch and see.
              RP supporters were never going to vote for Romney anyway. We've been through this many times before.
              "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
              "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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              • #8
                I like alot of what rp had to say . That being said he never stood a chance . You cant go from socialism to isolation in one step . If he was put up as the RNC nomination or a 3rd party option he would do nothing but ensure obamas re-election . The first step in fixing this country is to remove Obama with a candidate that will get in to office and over the next 8-16 years go further to the right and get this country back to what it was.
                The only difference between a tax man and a taxidermist is that the taxidermist leaves the skin. -- Mark Twain

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                • #9
                  I'm not surprised, it was pretty much to be expected. This was the entire reason the party pulled shenanigans in some of the states during the delegate selection process.

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                  • #10
                    So, if those Paulbots don't vote Romney, then they vote Obama. It's that simple. Writing in Paul is a wasted vote. He never had a chance. He sounds too much like a crazy old man.

                    Fortunately, this ends this year. No more Ron Paul after this.
                    I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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                    • #11
                      Frost, do you think Paul is "bad" for the republican party?

                      Edit: change "the republican party" to America or politics if you like.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by CJ View Post
                        RP supporters were never going to vote for Romney anyway. We've been through this many times before.
                        That's right, because when you're on the side of liberty there is no compromising. DR Paul supporters know there is no difference between the two goldman sachs candidates, except their skin color.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jw33 View Post
                          Frost, do you think Paul is "bad" for the republican party?

                          Edit: change "the republican party" to America or politics if you like.
                          I don't think Paul is a Republican. He only wears the mantle when he wants to win an election. Every other time he bad mouths the party. He's a Libertarian who doesn't have the balls to run under that. He's like the Republican who switched to Democrat to try to win an election and lost. Liberman I think.
                          I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by teal93derp View Post
                            That's right, because when you're on the side of liberty there is no compromising. DR Paul supporters know there is no difference between the two goldman sachs candidates, except their skin color.
                            Really? Have you seen their policies? And remind me again how someone who believes in term limits can run for 30 years violating his own ideology. Or someone who claims to be against earmarks but puts in his own in bills and waits to see the vote number so he can vote against it but still get his money. Remind me again.
                            I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                              So, if those Paulbots don't vote Romney, then they vote Obama. It's that simple. Writing in Paul is a wasted vote. He never had a chance. He sounds too much like a crazy old man.

                              Fortunately, this ends this year. No more Ron Paul after this.
                              Not compromising and sticking with your candidate is not a wasted vote. Everyone has the right to vote for who they want. Just because you don't supportDR Paul doesn't mean it's a "wasted vote." The DR Paul supporters understand that a vote for Obama is vote for Romney, there is no difference between them. DR Paul supporters want a liberty minded candidate, and neither of the goldman sachs candidates offer that.

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