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    War Profiteering?

    Veteran Clothing is a new line of clothing started by a guy named Billy Truong, out of San Diego, California. Several fans brought it to our attention yesterday, at first glance you immediately think this company is either Veteran owned/operated or they at least donate to Veterans groups. Well come to find out, neither of the above is true. But we believe their title and their slogan are very misleading, and tried several times to explain that to them. But they would not listen to what we had to say. In our humble opinion they knew exactly what they were doing when they started using this name and slogan, they are using it for their own personal gain.

    I know some of you will probably disagree, but take a glance at their facebook page and tell me if your first impression is that it is either Veteran Owned/Operated or they at least have some affiliation with a Veterans organization, And it is set up that way completely on purpose. Veteran Clothing Facebook Page

    We saw several posts by Veterans on the page asking about this, here is a screenshot of Mr. Truong responding to a Veteran’s question

    New Clothing Line “Veteran Clothing” Using the term “Veteran” for Personal Profit? | Guardian Of Valor
    http://guardianofvalor.com/new-clothing-line-veteran-clothing-using-the-term-veteran-for-personal-profit/
    Veteran Clothing is a new line of clothing started by a guy named Billy Truong, out of San Diego, California. Several fans brought it to our attention yesterday, at first glance you immediately?thi…
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    The term veteran is not owned by the people of the military. Yea he probably should have used a different name.

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    • #3
      His clothing bears the Purple Heart and Marine camo colors. Federal law also defines the term veteran.

      FEDERAL DEFINITION: under Federal Law a VETERAN is any person, who served honorably on active duty in the armed forces of the United States. (Discharges marked GENERAL AND UNDER HONORABLE CONDITIONS also qualify.)




      Report this guy & his company to TIOH!! By using the Purple Heart, he is in direct violation of the law (Code of Federal Regulations, 32 CFR, § 507.15) which prohibits the manufacture or sale of items which feature a heraldic item (i.e, the Purple Heart). I've reported this to him already, but we ALL need to stand up against this! It just makes me sick.

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      • #4
        Yep, nothing military about this at all:




        Or this one:



        And here is the owner of the company wearing a medal I earned:

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        • #5
          War Profiteering?

          How do we forget ourselves? How do we forget our minds?

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          • #6
            Purple Heart, MOH, ect should all be against the law to counterfit

            the penalty should be the same as making counterfit money. Printing a Purple Heart on a shirt should not be allowed by law.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
              His clothing bears the Purple Heart and Marine camo colors. Federal law also defines the term veteran.

              FEDERAL DEFINITION: under Federal Law a VETERAN is any person, who served honorably on active duty in the armed forces of the United States. (Discharges marked GENERAL AND UNDER HONORABLE CONDITIONS also qualify.)
              You're misreading the definition. A person having served in the military for over 180 days and discharged under respectable conditions is a veteran of the military. What you posted is their definition of what A military veteran is not what the full definition of the word is.

              vet·er·an   [vet-er-uhn, ve-truhn]
              noun
              1. a person who has had long service or experience in an occupation, office, or the like: a veteran of the police force; a veteran of many sports competitions.
              2. a person who has served in a military force, especially one who has fought in a war: a Vietnam veteran.

              While what the company is doing is bullshit especially when they don't provide money to wounded and in need veterans, the use of veteran in a company name is nothing new. Many veteran owned businesses use the word in their company names or slogans.

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              • #8
                Again, VETERAN OWNED. This douche is violating the law by emblazing civilian dress with military emblems. I wrote the department of heraldry seeking answers on how this is going on.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RCITNet View Post
                  You're misreading the definition. A person having served in the military for over 180 days and discharged under respectable conditions is a veteran of the military. What you posted is their definition of what A military veteran is not what the full definition of the word is.

                  vet·er·an   [vet-er-uhn, ve-truhn]
                  noun
                  1. a person who has had long service or experience in an occupation, office, or the like: a veteran of the police force; a veteran of many sports competitions.
                  2. a person who has served in a military force, especially one who has fought in a war: a Vietnam veteran.

                  While what the company is doing is bullshit especially when they don't provide money to wounded and in need veterans, the use of veteran in a company name is nothing new. Many veteran owned businesses use the word in their company names or slogans.
                  Except for everything they offer is military related. "Salute me!" shirts, purple heart shirts and so forth. If they had shirts with soccerballs on it, I may agree with you
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                  • #10
                    They never directly claimed to be affiliated with the military or any veterans' program. They also posted a letter of apology and intent on their FB page. And they've removed the purple heart shirt from their store.

                    At the same time, they are claiming that members of their team have been sent death threats. Now that's fucking stupid. Hopefully not by service members, as it would be retarded to condemn someone for exercising the freedoms you fight for.

                    Finally, not everything they offer is military related. You haven't really looked into this, Frost, before taking your stand.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                      Again, VETERAN OWNED. This douche is violating the law by emblazing civilian dress with military emblems. I wrote the department of heraldry seeking answers on how this is going on.
                      Show me where its against the law to print an image of a medal on a shirt?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RCITNet View Post
                        Show me where its against the law to print an image of a medal on a shirt?

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                        Whoever knowingly wears, purchases, attempts to purchase, solicits for purchase, mails, ships, imports, exports, produces blank certificates of receipt for, manufactures, sells, attempts to sell, advertises for sale, trades, barters, or exchanges for anything of value any decoration or medal authorized by Congress for the armed forces of the United States, or any of the service medals or badges awarded to the members of such forces, or the ribbon, button, or rosette of any such badge, decoration or medal, or any colorable imitation thereof, except when authorized under regulations made pursuant to law, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

                        d) Enhanced Penalty for Offenses Involving Certain Other Medals.— If a decoration or medal involved in an offense described in subsection (a) or (b) is a distinguished-service cross awarded under section 3742 of title 10, a Navy cross awarded under section 6242 of title 10, an Air Force cross awarded under section 8742 of section 10, a silver star awarded under section 3746, 6244, or 8746 of title 10, a Purple Heart awarded under section 1129 of title 10, or any replacement or duplicate medal for such medal as authorized by law, in lieu of the punishment provided in the applicable subsection, the offender shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both.

                        18 USC § 704 - Military medals or decorations


                        Anything else?
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                        • #13
                          Dude we live in a capitalist society, he's just exploiting a name. People exploit far worse things for a buck....

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by exlude View Post
                            They never directly claimed to be affiliated with the military or any veterans' program. They also posted a letter of apology and intent on their FB page. And they've removed the purple heart shirt from their store.

                            At the same time, they are claiming that members of their team have been sent death threats. Now that's fucking stupid. Hopefully not by service members, as it would be retarded to condemn someone for exercising the freedoms you fight for.

                            Finally, not everything they offer is military related. You haven't really looked into this, Frost, before taking your stand.
                            Actually I did. Their 'Salute Me" clothing can be explained by nothing but military. The purple heart shirt the douche bag is wearing is only military, the Veteran name and logoed clothing can be explained by nothing but military as it carries no qualifiers (if you look at the dictionary definition, when it's not added to military service, it carries a qualifier such as 'veteran actor' or 'veteran player.') The word "Veteran" carries with it the recognition of military service.


                            I can see people sending them VERY angry messages. They're cheapening and making money off the service of others. They're exercising their rights to make money off the service of others and those who earned the title are expressing their ... distaste
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by onemeangixxer7502 View Post
                              Dude we live in a capitalist society, he's just exploiting a name. People exploit far worse things for a buck....
                              And they're catching hell for it. They're also in violation of the law.
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