War Profiteering?

[onemeangixxer7502]

And they're catching hell for it. They're also in violation of the law.

Well i can agree its pretty shitty there is far worse things people are making $$ on .......

[slow99]

if you look at the dictionary definition, when it's not added to military service, it carries a qualifier such as 'veteran actor' or 'veteran player.' The word "Veteran" carries with it the recognition of military service.

Interesting - Merriam Webster:

1. a : an old soldier of long service b : a former member of the armed forces

2. : a person of long experience usually in some occupation or skill (as politics or the arts)


Examples of VETERAN

a veteran of the political scene
He's a 10-year veteran with the team.

Origin of VETERAN
Latin veteranus, from veteranus, adjective, old, of long experience, from veter-, vetus old


From Dictionary.com:

vet·er·an
   [vet-er-uhn, ve-truhn]
noun

1. a person who has had long service or experience in an occupation, office, or the like: a veteran of the police force; a veteran of many sports competitions.

2.a person who has served in a military force, especially one who has fought in a war: a Vietnam veteran.

[Forever_frost]

As I pointed out, the examples carry a qualifier and do not use the term as a stand alone. He's also in violation of federal law with that nifty purple heart shirt that that fucking asshole is wearing

[RCITNet]

Whoever knowingly wears, purchases, attempts to purchase, solicits for purchase, mails, ships, imports, exports, produces blank certificates of receipt for, manufactures, sells, attempts to sell, advertises for sale, trades, barters, or exchanges for anything of value any decoration or medal authorized by Congress for the armed forces of the United States, or any of the service medals or badges awarded to the members of such forces, or the ribbon, button, or rosette of any such badge, decoration or medal, or any colorable imitation thereof, except when authorized under regulations made pursuant to law, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

d) Enhanced Penalty for Offenses Involving Certain Other Medals.— If a decoration or medal involved in an offense described in subsection (a) or (b) is a distinguished-service cross awarded under section 3742 of title 10, a Navy cross awarded under section 6242 of title 10, an Air Force cross awarded under section 8742 of section 10, a silver star awarded under section 3746, 6244, or 8746 of title 10, a Purple Heart awarded under section 1129 of title 10, or any replacement or duplicate medal for such medal as authorized by law, in lieu of the punishment provided in the applicable subsection, the offender shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both.

18 USC § 704 - Military medals or decorations


Anything else?

That's awesome except for the fact that the Stolen Valor Act was deemed unconstitutional on June 28, 2012 by the supreme Court.

Anything else?

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[hotrod66stang]

2. : a person of long experience usually in some occupation or skill (as politics or the arts)

I know you're smarter than that, and just playing devil's advocate, but c'mon. I would think the smarter members of DFWM would appreciate the difference in a person selling a patriotic shirt and some douchebag that has never served selling a shirt with a purple heart on it. I'm sure he's constitutionally protected to print that shirt (which I'm glad he is), but at the same time, I'm glad people are standing up to boycott his work.

I would imagine the rest of you would be pissed if someone made a shirt emblazoned by some work of art that you imagined/invented/made possible. I'm all about free speech, but can't believe this faget was as bold as he was.

[hotrod66stang]

That's awesome except for the fact that the Stolen Valor Act was deemed unconstitutional on June 28, 2012 by the supreme Court.

Anything else?

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So was ObamaCare. Well, if they had listened to Obama, and considered it "not a tax", it would have been unconstitutional. Fortunately for the Dems, they didn't listen to Obama. I bet money Obama is glad they didn't listen to his rhetoric.

NEXT....

[Forever_frost]

I know you're smarter than that, and just playing devil's advocate, but c'mon. I would think the smarter members of DFWM would appreciate the difference in a person selling a patriotic shirt and some douchebag that has never served selling a shirt with a purple heart on it. I'm sure he's constitutionally protected to print that shirt (which I'm glad he is), but at the same time, I'm glad people are standing up to boycott his work.

I would imagine the rest of you would be pissed if someone made a shirt emblazoned by some work of art that you imagined/invented/made possible. I'm all about free speech, but can't believe this faget was as bold as he was.

Actually he's not. The Department of Heraldry permits and allows reprinting of the Purple Heart. If he doesn't have permission, he can't use it.

[ceyko]

I'm with FF on this one, it's annoying to try to snake a buck that way. I will never buy anything from that store for the obvious reasons.

Personally, bullshit apology letter or not - it's clear that the person is trying to ride the patriotism train. Which is fine on the surface, we know others do it. However, the ones I support actually served in one fashion or another. Heck, one just sells coffee (lock n load Java).

[Forever_frost]

That's awesome except for the fact that the Stolen Valor Act was deemed unconstitutional on June 28, 2012 by the supreme Court.

Anything else?

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It's not stolen valor. Stolen Valor was an expansion of this law. This one, is still in effect. Try again.

Research points out that the "Stolen Valor Act" is the Part B of the code. Part A is still law. And then you have the law STILL stating you can't wear military uniforms. You can pretend to be a military member, you just can't steal the image of the medals or, according to this still active law, wear the uniform.

10 USC, Subtitle A, Part II, Chapter 45, Sections 771 and 772.

Section 771 states:

Except as otherwise provided by law, no person except a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps, as the case may be, may wear -

(1) the uniform, or a distinctive part of the uniform, of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps; or

(2) a uniform any part of which is similar to a distinctive part of the uniform of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps

Section 772 lists some exceptions:

(a) A member of the Army National Guard or the Air National Guard may wear the uniform prescribed for the Army National Guard or the Air National Guard, as the case may be.

(b) A member of the Naval Militia may wear the uniform prescribed for the Naval Militia.

(c) A retired officer of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps may bear the title and wear the uniform of his retired grade.

(d) A person who is discharged honorably or under honorable conditions from the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps may wear his uniform while going from the place of discharge to his home, within three months after his discharge.

(e) A person not on active duty who served honorably in time of war in the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps may bear the title, and, when authorized by regulations prescribed by the President, wear the uniform, of the highest grade held by him during that war.

(f) While portraying a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps, an actor in a theatrical or motion-picture production may wear the uniform of that armed force if the portrayal does not tend to discredit that armed force.

(g) An officer or resident of a veterans' home administered by the Department of Veterans Affairs may wear such uniform as the Secretary of the military department concerned may prescribe.

(h) While attending a course of military instruction conducted by the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps, a civilian may wear the uniform prescribed by that armed force if the wear of such uniform is specifically authorized under regulations prescribed by the Secretary of the military department concerned.

(i) Under such regulations as the Secretary of the Air Force may prescribe, a citizen of a foreign country who graduates from an Air Force school may wear the appropriate aviation badges of the Air Force.

(j) A person in any of the following categories may wear the uniform prescribed for that category:

(1) Members of the Boy Scouts of America.
(2) Members of any other organization designated by the Secretary of a military department

[Forever_frost]

So was ObamaCare. Well, if they had listened to Obama, and considered it "not a tax", it would have been unconstitutional. Fortunately for the Dems, they didn't listen to Obama. I bet money Obama is glad they didn't listen to his rhetoric.

NEXT....

It's still not constitutional. They can tax all they want, they jsut have no power to create any of the agencies under it or give out health care.

[hotrod66stang]

Actually he's not. The Department of Heraldry permits and allows reprinting of the Purple Heart. If he doesn't have permission, he can't use it.

Personally, bullshit apology letter or not - it's clear that the person is trying to ride the patriotism train.

My apologies. Fuck Toby Keith, btw. There has never been another that has ridden out the patriotism train like he has.

[ELVIS]

what i would give for the free time to stress on stuff like this. i salute you frost!

god bless.

[David]

what i would give for the free time to stress on stuff like this. i salute you frost!

god bless.

Lmao!! I thought the same thing!!

[Forever_frost]

Hey, I have to have something to do. Retirement is boring

[Forever_frost]

My apologies. Fuck Toby Keith, btw. There has never been another that has ridden out the patriotism train like he has.

Riding the patriotism train is one thing. Calling yourself a Veteran clothing company, and claiming you and your buddies are the 'vet squad' while wearing purple heart shirts is completely another