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    Ft. Hood Judge Rejects Hasan's Guilty Plea

    Aug 16, 2012

    Agence France-Presse
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    The soldier accused of killing 13 people at a Texas army base tried on Wednesday to plead guilty, but the judge refused to accept it and the trial was unexpectedly adjourned until next week.

    Maj. Nidal Hasan, a former army psychiatrist, is accused of carrying out the November 2009 shooting rampage at Fort Hood, an attack that raised fears of homegrown extremism and al-Qaeda recruitment within the armed forces.

    Hasan tried to plead guilty on 13 counts of premeditated murder, but Col. Gregory Gross, who is hearing the case, said military law does not allow for guilty pleas in death penalty trials.

    Gross entered a not guilty plea instead.

    The United States Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces meanwhile delayed the trial until Monday so it could review a confrontation between the judge and Hasan, who has grown a beard in violation of Army regulations.

    Gross has said he wants Hasan to be in court for the trial, and that if he does not shave his beard, soldiers will be ordered to shave it for him.

    The Constitution generally allows the accused to confront witnesses and evidence in trial, but there have been cases where defendants are removed from the courtroom due to unruly behavior.

    Witnesses to the shooting -- mostly soldiers preparing to deploy to Afghanistan -- said they saw Hasan jump on a desk in a crowded deployment facility and cry out, "Allahu Akbar!", Arabic for God is greatest.

    Testifying in an earlier evidentiary hearing, they said he then began firing at them with a pair of handguns fed with extended-round clips.

    Wednesday's plea attempt may have been part of a risky gambit to hamper the prosecution's efforts to bring witnesses to the stand, according to Geoffrey Corn, a military law expert at the South Texas College of Law in Houston.

    "They could still call the witnesses in sentencing, but it's a dilemma," Corn said, adding that prosecutors would then have to explain why they were prolonging the trial after Hasan admitted guilt.

    Corn said the appeals court could settle the beard issue in a matter of days. "They're going to do everybody a favor" by settling it now, rather than after the trial ends and the appeals process begins, he said.

    The FBI alleges Hasan had contacts with firebrand U.S.-born preacher Anwar al-Awlaqi, a key leader of al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula who was killed in a September 2011 drone strike.

    Hasan -- who had been set to deploy to Afghanistan weeks after the attack -- was shot by police officers trying to halt the carnage and left paralyzed from the neck down.
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  • #2
    The ploys suck out loud.

    Is it true that the military does not allow for guilty pleas in death penalty cases?

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    • #3
      why don't they just shoot the fuck and get all this over with

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      • #4
        Originally posted by krazy kris View Post
        why don't they just shoot the fuck and get all this over with
        Sadly, he still has rights that we must uphold.

        Having said that, I would gladly pull out the deer rifle and do it far enough away to where the only answer for his death would be, "Some redneck got tired of his shit. We don't know where the shot came from and there is no record of this bullet type or striations on record."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Snatch Napkin View Post
          The ploys suck out loud.

          Is it true that the military does not allow for guilty pleas in death penalty cases?
          I have never heard that before.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Snatch Napkin View Post
            Sadly, he still has rights that we must uphold.

            Having said that, I would gladly pull out the deer rifle and do it far enough away to where the only answer for his death would be, "Some redneck got tired of his shit. We don't know where the shot came from and there is no record of this bullet type or striations on record."
            It should be that he lost all his rights when he took them from all the people he shot

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
              I have never heard that before.
              Neither have I, but I'm very far from knowledgeable on military law.

              If it's true, then the Judge is doing his job. If it's not true, then I fear we will have further issues.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Snatch Napkin View Post
                The ploys suck out loud.

                Is it true that the military does not allow for guilty pleas in death penalty cases?
                With military law if he pleads guilty than essentially he is executed. For PR reasons, and justice as a whole - the government will present evidence to justify his execution, hence the mandatory not guilty.
                "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
                "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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                • #9
                  He should be executed by firing squad or public hanging!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by fst_stng View Post
                    He should be executed by public hanging and his rope should be just long enough to allow his toes to touch!
                    ftfy

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                    • #11
                      Anybody have recent photos of him?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Osiris View Post
                        Anybody have recent photos of him?
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                        • #13
                          and he's in a wheelchair of course. I feel sorry for the soldier that has to wipe his ass for him.
                          "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
                          "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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                          • #14
                            His arms still work, don't they?

                            IF a soldier has to wipe his ass, then allow him to restrain the fucker to shave him. Maybe he'll get a chance to take out his frustrations.

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                            • #15
                              He should be pushed put of his chair and horsewhipped, then left in the sun to die.
                              ZOMBIE REAGAN FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!! heh

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