Update on Hasan

[YALE]

Finally. Only took 4 years for something that EVERYBODY knew.

Death by firing squad would be nice...and they're all gut and knee shots.

Fuck a knee shot. That's an easy way to bleed out. Gut shots. Aim for the kidneys. See you in hell, bitch!

[GhostTX]

Finally. Only took 4 years for something that EVERYBODY knew.

Death by firing squad would be nice...and they're all gut and knee shots.

[Woods Racing Transmission]

He's been found guilty on all counts. Sentencing starts tomorrow

Public hanging seems fitting to me right after a Texas sized pulled pork sandwich for his last meal.

[Forever_frost]

He's been found guilty on all counts. Sentencing starts tomorrow

[David]

Update on Hasan

So was anyone surprised when he didn't testify? I really thought he'd use the opportunity to try to drive home his position and thinking.

Asked to call the first witness for the defense and come back with Defense rests?

He's probably thinking he will have a better chance to drive home his thoughts in closing, than himself as a witness. Although he will be limited on what can and cannot be used in closing.

[SonicblueGT03]

So was anyone surprised when he didn't testify? I really thought he'd use the opportunity to try to drive home his position and thinking.

Asked to call the first witness for the defense and come back with Defense rests?

[Downs]

Here's an idea. Let me be fucking armed even when going about my business on base. I'm not even asking for open carry let me carry my fucking concealed weapon. :/

[Forever_frost]

They kill each other

[jw33]

Bradley Manning and Nidal Hasan get into a fight over a fruit cocktail. Who do you want to win?

[Forever_frost]

I'd like to see his commission revoked and him put in general population with the SF and Ranger guys who lost it overseas and were locked up in Leavenworth. Long prison sentence, no possibility of parole and general population would make me happy

[likeitfast55]

Thanks for the update Frost. Other than the obvious, what outcome would you like to see Frost?

[Forever_frost]

Lawyers representing the family members of those killed and injured in the Ft. Hood shooting rampage were outraged today when an Army judge limited prosecutors from introducing evidence, including emails to a known Al Qaeda operative, that would establish accused shooter Maj. Nidal Hasan's "jihadi" motives.

The judge's rulings could inhibit the ability of the victims' families to claim in a civil suit that the shootings were an act of terror. Federal lawyers involved in the civil suit claim that the people shot during Hasan's murderous rage were victims of workplace violence, a designation that could sharply limit the damages in a civil suit.

"This is first degree mass murder case and motive is absolutely relevant to prove premeditation," said Neal Sher, a lawyer representing many of the victims and their family members in a separate civil suit against the government.

Prosecutors have sought to portray Hasan as a Muslim extremist, motivated by Islamist ideology and in touch with known al Qaeda member Anwar Alwaki.

"He didn't want to deploy and he came to believe he had a jihad duty to murder soldiers," lead prosecutor Col. Steve Henricks said in his opening statements. He wanted to "kill as many soldiers as he could."

The judge, Col. Tara Osborn, ruled today that prosecutors could not mention Hasan's correspondence with Alwaki, an American born al Qaeda recruiter and organizer. Osborn also barred prosecutors from mentioning Hassan's interest in seeking conscientious objector status and drawing parallels to a 2003 incident in which another Muslim American soldier attacked U.S. troops in Kuwait, according to the Associated Press.

The judge found much of that evidence was too old, but permitted prosecutors to introduce evidence about Hasan's internet usage and search history from the time of the attack.

Many of the victims and their family members have filed a civil suit against the government, arguing that the attack should be classified as a terrorist attack, allowing victims to receive combat medals, like the Purple Heart, and receive better benefits.

The government maintains that the attack was an incidence of "workplace violence."

"The government is talking from both sides of its mouth," Sher said to describe the Pentagon's decision on the one hand to deny that the attack was an act of terror, while having prosecutors argue that Hasan was motivated by "jihad," or Muslim holy war.

"Our view is pretty basic: It's obvious that the government knew he had jihadist leanings years before the attack," Sher said.

Hasan, who is representing himself, previously called himself a "mujahedeen" or Muslim holy warrior and said he had switched sides in the war between the U.S. and Islamic terrorism.

Prosecutors said on Friday they would soon be wrapping their case against Hasan, which means he may begin his defense as early as Tuesday.

If convicted, he could face the death penalty.

http://news.yahoo.com/fort-hood-judge-bans-evidence-shooters-jihadi-motives-195407699--abc-news-topstories.html

[Forever_frost]

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/08/20/Army-Missed-Many-Opportunities-to-Stop-Hasan

The victims and survivors of the November 2009 Fort Hood massacre filed a lawsuit against federal and Pentagon officials because they believe the shooting was preventable. The New York Times received two emails sent by the accused shooter, Maj. Nidal Hasan, sent prior to his attack and provides additional evidence suggesting the Army missed many opportunities to investigate him before the rampage.
Hasan, a military psychiatrist, emailed his supervisors 13 days before the attack about three cases he found disturbing. Hasan requested the release of the emails to the Times through his lawyer, John P. Galligan. The Times reports:

In one case, a soldier reported to him that American troops had poured 50 gallons of fuel into the Iraqi water supply as revenge; the second case involved another soldier who told him about a mercy killing of a severely injured insurgent by medics; and in the third, a soldier spoke of killing an Iraqi woman because he was following orders to shoot anything that approached a specific site.

Hasan's superiors never followed up on those communications. Hasan said he opened fire on soldiers on November 9, 2009, to protect Muslims and members of the Taliban from American troops. The NYT provided more examples when the Army could have stopped Hasan:

In 2007, when Major Hasan was a resident in the psychiatric program at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, the academic presentation he made that was required for graduation – known as his grand rounds presentation – stated that a risk of having Muslim Americans in the military was the possibility that they would murder their fellow troops.

He had also asked a supervisor at Walter Reed whether he qualified for conscientious objector status, told classmates during a fellowship that his religion took precedence over the Constitution and in an academic paper defended Osama bin Laden.

Soon after making the grand rounds presentation in 2007, Major Hasan made another presentation in which he argued that the United States’ war on terrorism was a war on Islam, and the class was so offended that the instructor stopped him before he finished. Despite those episodes, Major Hasan was promoted from captain to major in May 2009 and assigned to Fort Hood that July, and his officer evaluation reports referred to him as a star officer.

Judge Col. Tara Osborn threw out this evidence in Hasan's military trial, including the emails he exchanged with Anwar al-Awlaki. In February 2011, The Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee released their report “A Ticking Timebomb: Counterterrorism Lessons from the U.S. Government’s Failure to Prevent the Fort Hood Attack” and found government officials had plenty of information to stop Hasan. However, Senators Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Susan Collins (R-ME) were disappointed the report did not state the root cause of the attack, which they argued was violent Islamist extremism.

The prosecution rested their case against Hasan on Tuesday afternoon; the defense is expected to present their case on Wednesday.

[Vertnut]

"Work-place violence" is a bitch.

[GhostTX]

Obama and Holder are going to find a way to either get the case dismissed - or find him not guilty.

They failed with Zimmerman...