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  • #16
    WASHINGTON — The nearly 20 often-rambling emails that an Army psychiatrist sent to Yemeni terror leader Anwar al-Awlaki painted a confusing picture.

    In some he was a believer intent on supporting terrorists and intrigued with the idea of U.S. soldiers killing comrades in the name of Islam. In others he was a man looking for help finding an appropriate wife.

    In the end, they weren't enough for the FBI to identify Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan as a terrorist threat or, as it would turn out, as a man who now stands accused of the shooting spree at Fort Hood that killed 13 and wounded 23 others in November 2009.

    The emails attracted the attention of FBI and anti-terrorism task force agents in December 2008, and eventually prompted them to dig up Hasan's personnel records and evaluation reports.

    But gaps in the bureau's systems, poor training, antiquated technologies and an underlying fear that approaching Hasan would reveal the ongoing investigation into Awlaki prevented the FBI from pursuing the matter much further.

    An independent review released Thursday by the FBI lays out a series of gaffes the bureau made as agents evaluated Hasan's correspondence with Awlaki, and ultimately decided the Army major was not a terror threat. The report, by former FBI Director William Webster, concludes that FBI personnel made mistakes in their handling of intelligence information, but that no one person was responsible.

    "We do not find, and do not believe, that anyone is solely responsible for mistakes in handling the information," Webster wrote to FBI Director Robert Mueller in a letter with the report. "We do not believe it would be fair to hold these dedicated personnel, who work in a context of constant threats and limited resources, responsible for the tragedy that occurred months later at Fort Hood."

    Much was already known about the series of oversights and missteps the government made leading to the terror attack at the Fort Hood Army post, but the report revealed new details.

    The report describes the back-and-forth that went on between agents in Washington and task force members reviewing the emails in San Diego.

    The FBI in San Diego had been investigating al-Awlaki, a former San Diego resident, for his possible connections to the 9/11 hijackers. When agents saw emails between Hasan and al-Awlaki, they asked the FBI's Washington office to talk to Hasan's bosses.

    The Washington office said no.

    The agents in Washington told Webster's investigators that an interview might have jeopardized the FBI's probe of Hasan by revealing that the bureau had access to his emails with al-Awalaki.

    And, the report said, the FBI agents believed that an interview and contact with Hasan's chain-of-command might jeopardize Hasan's military career

    The FBI ultimately concluded that Hasan's communications were in keeping with his research at the time, and as a result, no formal investigation of Hasan was opened. Hasan was writing a research paper about the effects of combat in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Webster's report says that al-Awlaki deserved scrutiny by the FBI in Washington beyond a simple records check and said it was a mistake not to have interviewed Hasan.

    The emails began in December 2008 and the last one was sent in June 2009. His first one laid out a question. What would Awlaki think of Muslims who have joined the military and "have even killed or tried to kill" other U.S. soldiers.

    Other emails laid out a defense of Hamas, while a series of others pressed Awlaki to make it easier for people to donate money to his website.

    In one he mentions a survey about the U.S. trying to undermine Islam, and in another he talks about a speaker he heard that defended suicide bombers.

    Another note added a "PS": "I'm looking for a wife that is willing to strive with me to please Allah," Hasan wrote. "I will strongly consider a recommendation coming from you."

    Awlaki responded only twice. Once to thank him for fundraising efforts, and a second time thanking him again for the offers to help, and adding: "Tell more about yourself. I will keep an eye for a sister."

    Webster's report makes 18 recommendations for policy changes, improvements in training, information technology and other systems. Many of the recommendations have already been implemented by the FBI, or are in progress

    The report also makes some broader observations about the difficulties in identifying lone wolf terrorists.

    "Nidal Malik Hasan's transformation into a killer underscores the dilemma confronting the FBI," the report said. "He was a religious person. He had no known foreign travel. Other than his eighteen communications with Anwar al-Awlaki, he had no known contact and no known relationships with criminal elements, agents of foreign power, or potential terrorists."

    Webster noted that the case also underscores the challenges presented by the new information age. Advancing technologies, he said, demand changes in the way the FBI acquires, stores and acts on intelligence.

    Mueller called the Webster review thorough, and said the FBI constantly strives to improve its procedures.

    The FBI and Defense Department have said that they've made several policy changes since the 2009 attack to help stave off similar attacks in the future. One major change was that if al-Awlaki comes up as part of a terror investigation, FBI headquarters would be alerted, Mark Giuliano, assistant director for the FBI's National Security Branch, said last year.

    Al-Awlaki, implicated in other terror plots, was killed in a drone strike in Yemen last fall.

    Hasan is currently being tried in a military court.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
      I have my own solutions to how to handle him. Put him back at the Soldier's Readiness Center and let us police our own. No news, no tax dollars, just us policing ourselves. I can promise you, we can get VERY creative.

      Just turn him over to my girlfriend. Club gitmo ain't got nothing like what she can dish out; film it and release it as a warning.
      Magnus, I am your father. You need to ask your mother about a man named Calvin Klein.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by 91cavgt View Post
        Now we're talking!! Involve pigs with his death so that way he won't end up being a martyr and he won't get those 77 virgins.
        The pork thing doesn't count if it's involuntary.
        ZOMBIE REAGAN FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!! heh

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        • #19
          It will be 3 years this November.

          Way too long.

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          • #20
            Should have been 3 days befor his public execution on base

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            • #21
              I'll bet that cock sucker is still getting paid as well.

              Screw him.

              mardyn

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              • #22
                Originally posted by mardyn View Post
                I'll bet that cock sucker is still getting paid as well.

                Screw him.

                mardyn
                Full pay and benefits and he still holds his rank
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                • #23
                  A military appeals court placed the trial for accused Fort Hood shooter Maj. Nidal Hasan on hold indefinitely Friday amid continuing issues surrounding Hasan’s refusal to shave his beard, CNN reported.

                  The court martial was first halted Wednesday so the appeals court could consider the Army psychiatrist’s objections to being forcibly shaved. He has been fined and held in contempt repeatedly for remaining bearded, which is a violation of Army regulations, but says the facial hair is an expression of his faith. Hasan, 41, is an American-born Muslim.

                  Hasan’s court martial had been scheduled to start Monday for the 2009 mass shooting at Fort Hood, for which he faces 13 charges of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted meditated murder.

                  Hasan first grew the beard in June, prompting a pre-trial hearing to be postponed. The judge in the case, Col. Gregory Gross, threatened in July to have Hasan forcibly shaved if he did not comply with orders to remove the beard on his own.

                  According to CNN, it was unclear how long the case would be on hold.

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                  • #24
                    shave it for him

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                    • #25
                      This is fucking stupid. Treat him like you would any other soldier. If this were another Muslim troop or Catholic...whatever, orders would be followed and the court marshal would've been over a long time ago.
                      Originally posted by MR EDD
                      U defend him who use's racial slurs like hes drinking water.

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                      • #26
                        If this is how we treat a traitor/mass murderer that was a member of our armed forces, then the enemy has already won. We should have buried him within 36 hours of this incident.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by ceyko View Post
                          This is fucking stupid. Treat him like you would any other soldier. If this were another Muslim troop or Catholic...whatever, orders would be followed and the court marshal would've been over a long time ago.
                          No, if it was a Christian or a Jew it would have been handled. Muslims, since 9/11 are a protected class and with Obama in office, you will catch HELL if you treat them like other troops.

                          He's getting charged 1k per time he refuses but still making, bare minimum 5500 a month plus BAH, BAS
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                            you will catch HELL if you treat them like other troops.
                            I got out in 99, which then really only women were protected. The "racism" word came up a lot, but pretty much everyone just kept their mouth shut so admin action did not happen.

                            Anyway, just to verify - during your stint the Muslim type of troops were the ones throwing out their cards to special treatment?
                            Originally posted by MR EDD
                            U defend him who use's racial slurs like hes drinking water.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by ceyko View Post
                              I got out in 99, which then really only women were protected. The "racism" word came up a lot, but pretty much everyone just kept their mouth shut so admin action did not happen.

                              Anyway, just to verify - during your stint the Muslim type of troops were the ones throwing out their cards to special treatment?
                              We didn't have Muslim types in the infantry when I was in. Or at least ones that were open and demanded special attention.
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                              • #30
                                So, when muslims stink because they only wash their hands, feet, and heads...do they get a G.I. shower? I really don't see how this is any different. You follow grooming standards, or you get them followed for you.
                                "It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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